From owner-freebsd-security Wed Aug 28 8: 2: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7287A37B400 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from olmec.nighttide.net (jasper.nighttide.net [207.5.141.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5344A43E75 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olmec.nighttide.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7SF1mF3083704; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:01:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from darren@nighttide.net) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:01:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Darren Henderson To: Lupe Christoph Cc: Mark Murray , Jens Rehsack , Subject: Re: Administrivia: Discussion - Making this list subscriber-only In-Reply-To: <20020828113310.GP26115@lupe-christoph.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It probably wouldn't be workable but, if with subscribers only turned on, if folks first post could be held for moderation a lot of the off topic, out of charter stuff could be redirected or stopped. After the first on topic message they could be taken off moderation. Stops the hit and run stuff. Means a lot of extra work for the list admin though. On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Lupe Christoph wrote: > I think that just one general questions list is too little. I was This is a problem that a lot of large projects have. One general question list is created and it rapidly becomes an unwieldy mess. Ever looked at the general PHP list? Its awful. Just way to much traffic to be of use. I'm subscribed to an HP-UX admin list that has almost the opposite problem. By design or happenstance the list consists of questions and summary responses. Practically no discussion on list - which I find a bit uncomfortable - lose that community, synergy kind of thing - often times pick up bits of info in the discussions that I wouldn't normally know. It would be nice if core would be amenable to creating, say: freebsd-questions-security freebsd-questions-hardware freebsd-questions-installation freebsd-questions-administration freebsd-questions-networking And whatever other high volume questions keep coming up. Benefits everyone in the long run, people can follow and try to help out where they are most comfortable, people who need something answered and are actually paying attention will be able to go where they will most likely find what they need. Of course the general question list will stay a mess. The other problem is that a lot of questions will span categories. "How do I get natd to do x" could fit in three or four of the categories I suggested above. Strangely the freebsd-newbies list seems to get relatively low traffic. Which is a pity, would be a good venue for folks coming up to speed. Must be some kind of stigma attached to "newbie" that keeps people away. ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@nighttide.net Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message