From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 30 14:13:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DED3106564A; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:13:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ambrosehua@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C768FC12; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so6772465gwb.13 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:13:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OyXPJvjRCFiMWaiEQPlIHvgQRkadAAHv4qSd2shU5HQ=; b=A0A6WV41hO9OOVrWM4oh15sVBMcVra1PkBHHn/7IOc0vcdqMuVOvds7lyNEMwNFRfb Lj/1OEM7mLHo1E1kokbjV27DB3ZhC5D5E0nkiYdIJQtGlu9yakEFQGR6TSloe7/l2pPf VSQKB1N9S6YH0G1auJf7w9UGEZsO3y4JRwp2E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.50.5 with SMTP id vc5mr5764723icb.455.1314711909483; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 06:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.241.5 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 06:45:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E5941D6.9090106@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4E5BEF65.2010502@gmail.com> <201108300929.51810.hselasky@c2i.net> <4E5CA9BE.2020005@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:45:09 +0800 Message-ID: From: Paul Ambrose To: Sergey Kandaurov X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:15:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-performance@freebsd.org" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Hartmann, O." , Hans Petter Selasky Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 14:13:23 -0000 I do not believe the current status of DTrace is appropriate for promoting 1. DTrace is an experimental function or Semi-finished products. The kernel dtrace support is ok, but the userland support is far from completion(at least the pid provider has many bugs) 2 the FreeBSD implementation is different from Solaris/Mac OS X. The DTraceToolkit, which has many amazing feature, can not 100% works on FreeBSD, and there is no doc to identify the difference. 3 There is a missing feature list about DTrace, but no schedule list about when to fix it. 2011/8/30 Sergey Kandaurov > On 30 August 2011 13:13, Hartmann, O. wrote: > > On 08/30/11 09:29, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > >> > >> On Monday 29 August 2011 21:58:29 Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > >>> > >>> 27.08.2011 22:13, Hartmann, O. wrote: > >>>> > >>>> This website should be brushed up or taken offline! > >>>> It seems full of vintage stuff from glory days. > >>>> > >>>> http://www.freebsd.org/marketing/os-comparison.html > >>> > >>> I think this one would better look like list of major features with os > >>> comparison, like: > >>> > >>> = Networking = > >>> * IPv6: major support, best stack around. > >>> * SCTP: full kernel implementation, still no userland support (i.e. > >>> ssh doesn't work over sctp by default yet). > >>> > >>> = Data storage = > >>> * ZFS: full support, datasets, compression, dedup, other stuff. Linux > >>> has LVM (?features...) and btrfs (?unstable.. ?features..), Windows has > >>> dynamic disks since XP (?features). > >>> > >>> = SMP = > >>> * (?something about comparing other shedulers with SCHED_ULE), (?some > >>> rt stuff), (?some comparison with other interesting shedulers, like > >>> DragonflyBSD and QNX). > >>> > >> And USB. I believe there are significant changes in the USB subsystems > >> which > >> those who are making performance benchmarks completely fail to mention. > >> > >> --HPS > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > What's about DTrace? > > > > = Development/System Profiling = > > * DTrace: Some notes of the Kernel Gurus what this could mean for > > performance profiling and development > > > > = Licensing Model = > > * Some striking comments on the advantage for companies or interested > > people of the BSD-like licensing model over the GPLv3 on which Linux is > > based now and which has serious implications for those who wants to > develop > > and sell software developed on/with GNU stuff. it would be very honest, > if > > we do not only emphasize only the pros. BSD came from the academic > > environment, that was where I met it the first time and I appreciated the > > way things were developed and 'sloppyness' was a nogo. So we should keep > it > > up and a serious and honest set of contraru points for all compared OS > > should be appreciable. > > > > > > Does the VM of FreeBSD still have advantges (measurable) over Linux? > > [Taking random email.] > > I think we could merge the $subj web page with this one (which is > more actual, as of 7.0): http://www.freebsd.org/features.html > > -- > wbr, > pluknet > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-performance-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >