From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Sep 27 20:54:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f125.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F7237B406 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 20:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 20:54:34 -0700 Received: from 24.116.159.131 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 03:54:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.116.159.131] From: "Charles Burns" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: reliable HDD brand (LONG) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 20:54:34 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2001 03:54:34.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[494D8A80:01C147D1] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The IBM Deskstar 75GXP has reliability problems, particularly with the 45GB model. The IBM Deskstar 60GXP is new, but doesn't seem to have any problems. Before the 75GXP series, IBM was known for making extremely reliableb IDE *AND* SCSI drives. There have been a few bumps in the road... IBM says they have identified the problem with the 75GXP (the fact that they were designed for 5 platters) and has fixed it. Maxtor, well, frankly Maxtor used to be horrible. They were among the worst brands of drives. They have a made a full circle, much like Western Digital (more on that below) and now make very reliable IDE drives. THey have a new model using only 1 of the 2 sides of the platter that is supposed to have less than half of the moving parts of their other drives, and is supposed to be extra, extra reliable (and also small--max of 20GB) Maxtors used to be better than IBMs overall because they were so much cheaper, but IBM seems to have lowered their prices to about the same level (at least on the websites that I shop from) Western Digital used to be great--probably the best brand of IDE drive, now probably one of the worst. I have returned more WD drives per capita since the age of 4GB (or so) models than any other brand. They decided to change their business model to making pure cheap drives. They have just recently reversed that (very recently) and are now getting back into quality, performance drives. Their most recent 100GB drive is actually THE fastest IDE drive, beating even the 60GXP and the Maxtor Diamondmax + 7200RPM drives (though probably not the new 80GB model that will be released in October) Seagate -- makes great SCSI drives (and FAST!), but in my experience, which does not include any of their newest (>12 GB) drives, Seagates aren't as good as IBM or Maxtor. In general, if you want reliability, go SCSI, mirroring IDE or, RAID5 IDE and have a hot spare. If you want enterprise reliability (which you probably don't if you were considering IDE drives) get a solid state drive. They are usually above USD$25,000. Ouch. (These things are also blazing fast as far as access time--great for that "special" 5% of files on a big file server) Charles N Burns >I had the same experience with a wd ide disk. Wish there was a way to see >% of products returned/rmad. > >SCSI seems to be higher quality and price.. > >Brian "Sonic" Whalen >Success = Preparation + Opportunity > > >On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Andre` Niel Cameron wrote: > > > > > > past 10 years. There are no other manufacturers that I can say that > > about. > > > > > > > I can tell you to watch out for Maxtor. I had to replace three in 6 > > months:( > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message