From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Mar 18 17:41: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BFE14D22; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:39:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA29361; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:09:21 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id MAA79735; Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:09:21 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19990319120920.J429@lemis.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:09:20 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: aturoff@isinet.com Cc: Brett Glass , Zippy , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft (was: Netscape browser) References: <4.1.19990318155537.03f05850@localhost> <19990319112909.H429@lemis.com> <99Mar18.202531est.113793@pandora.isinet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <99Mar18.202531est.113793@pandora.isinet.com>; from Adam Turoff on Thu, Mar 18, 1999 at 08:34:28PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 18 March 1999 at 20:34:28 -0500, Adam Turoff wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> On Thursday, 18 March 1999 at 15:56:12 -0700, Brett Glass wrote: >>> Funny: Bill Gates recently mentioned FreeBSD by name in an interview, but >>> not Linux. >> >> Details? > > If you search lwn.net 6-10 weeks ago, you'll find a better version > of this reference. > > Basically, billg was interviewed by ix in Germany, back when they > were beating the 'sure we have competition -- look at Linux' drum. > > Same context. Except that billg said FreeBSD instead of Linux. Ah yes, I remember that well. I was the person who posted the message. Bill *did* mention Linux. But in his usual evasive fashion, only when they were talking about something else. When they talked about Linux, he replied about FreeBSD. I see this more as an indication of his evasive style than anything about Linux or FreeBSD. > The microsoft-ologists came to the conclusion that this is an example > of microsoft's internal compliance department (or marketing, or PR, > or somesuch) at work. The story goes that there is an internal gestapo > that fines anyone who talks to the press and mentions a term/competitor > by name if that term/competitor is on the internal blacklist. > > The mention of FreeBSD was thought to mean that Linux made it onto > the blacklist, but billg had a prepared speech, so he s/Linux/FreeBSD/g; > to avoid paying the fine. Yes. This, too, was mentioned, and I sent out a more detailed explanation refuting it. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message