From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 24 18:21:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB4E37B401 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4D043E6A for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:21:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020925012138.WGQH8451.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:21:38 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8P1Lb3e013494; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8P1LbAa013493; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200209250121.g8P1LbAa013493@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20020729 with nmh-1.0.4 To: jmd17@columbia.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADSUP: gzip packages on FreeBSD 4-STABLE In-Reply-To: References: Comments: In-reply-to "John Daniels" message dated "Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:05:47 -0400." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1767049314P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:21:37 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-1767049314P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "John Daniels" wrote: > Bruce Mah wrote: > >As a side effect, this will once again allow older FreeBSD > >installations to read recently-generated packages, although the > >use of such packages is not officially supported. > > Can you please clarify this? What my original statement means is that after we put the gzip package support back the way it was and regenerate packages, you'll once again be able to read 4.7 or later packages on 4.6.2 or earlier systems. Using packages generated from a FreeBSD system newer than the one you're trying to run them on is not guaranteed to work, and have never been guaranteed to work. > Does this mean that once FreeBSD has > completed the move to bzip2 then installations running older FreeBSD > versions that support/use gzip will have to upgrade to the latest > FreeBSD version in order to download/use newly generated packages? > > In essence, 1) there is no backward compatibility, right? so 2) will > it be possible to 'upgrade' an older FreeBSD version to bzip2 without > upgrading the system as a whole? The portmgr team is working on how to bring bzip2 package support to older versions of FreeBSD without requiring you to update your entire system. Until that time, unless you're one of the people actively working on the pkg_* tools or involved in release engineering, it's probably easiest for you to pretend that we never tried bzip2 packages. > Lastly, an unrelated question: is there a "roadmap" for what changes > are planned in upcomming versions? If so, where can I find it? There's no one place for this information. Some features for 5.0 (such as SMPng and KSE) have or had design documents, but I'm not sure how current they are. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1767049314P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE9kQ+g2MoxcVugUsMRAoXPAKDBKW9VXskmWIkeU/MhHVsMlDN0QwCcCXkF TvXHaLaBwHiS6JlRdfHibIM= =gf07 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1767049314P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message