From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Mar 14 16:00:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A1E154805B for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-f174.google.com (mail-lj1-f174.google.com [209.85.208.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 391AB8654A for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-f174.google.com with SMTP id v3so5294707ljk.9 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:00:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sFC68e3JbPS8KNVY31YqxSVHiWO9g1z09tRtFxhf48I=; b=OrY8Z6g8ytB4u+XLaTmpdyovEHJy05PtaumsjDkqExKFVL6UEt6ZwyE/KaadY4/V6t 7HYM+pCBch3PF5+m+870unsj8swYQ9Io3YUoI14d8g8FzIFXu1RfdNoEnkfG4kVhgzib ytZBw8FVFUmcIoMP0oS03XOmfPL+UnkKbDC/RTbAAn9PyK1+2IQsypJe086+NetLrEqw nY88dldc27zzcolOMKBBjX7X3FJcPjjJyNAwAcNf8q58FJgcJ1KsXu7CWHJ3KRWUYEbi 43l6ez7I+OvEuheg91/JzVTgrm61nxIhwUzkf6UoQrJ/jocYbUxCe0BCm32YqBEOuVke Z1RA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVR99M5zeh7FFsTBv7XHN8sZ1ajov0Zn77PNsvgW9HMWkK49LLO SwjPDLr6VJDiWLdrtmQtWCv4fRivTPsWImLvzUE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxKQ6xIwXekxuGhC33lFKnLEOtxuIJoKRrcA35EBAwdXRksZ0qw18vi7ue3BiLq6JrONta2ssxw368iYeS4Eb0= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9dda:: with SMTP id x26mr26819778ljj.53.1552579221940; Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190313013530.d96fc84c362bb489178357eb@gmail.com> <78358.1552464694@critter.freebsd.dk> <885.1552506820@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: From: Alan Somers Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:00:10 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: kern_sysctl.c interface To: Alfonso Sabato Siciliano Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 391AB8654A X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asomers@gmail.com designates 209.85.208.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asomers@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.27 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.990,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[174.208.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.975,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-1.30)[ip: (-0.45), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.88), asn: 15169(-2.08), country: US(-0.07)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:00:30 -0000 On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 9:57 AM Alfonso Sabato Siciliano wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 at 20:53, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > -------- > > In message < > > CANCZdfo8v6O+cJqOFu87ReiTTJxQJxX8YZgj8RBygy9Nb_FEEw@mail.gmail.com> > > , Warner Losh writes: > > > > >> > * This interface is under work and consideration, and should probably > > >> > * be killed with a big axe by the first person who can find the time. > > >> > * (be aware though, that the proper interface isn't as obvious as it > > >> > * may seem, there are various conflicting requirements. > > >> > > >> I think that is a comment I added more than 20 years ago because we, > > >> or at least I, wondered if the sysctl-OID tree should be moved to > > >> something SNMP-OID compatible. > > >> > > >> I dont know of anything happening after that. > > > > > >I suspect after 20ish years the comment can be removed, eh? > > > > Well, it's still a butt-ugly and inefficient interface... > > > > thank you for your answers, I agree with you, > snmp-oid could be a nice project in the future. > > Regards, > Alfonso This is the first time in a long time that I've read the words "snmp" and "future" in the same sentence. Does anybody still use SNMP anymore? Has it been supplanted yet? -Alan