From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 23 18:46:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66730148 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from acipenser.esturion.net (acipenser.esturion.net [65.101.5.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38B5379E for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by acipenser.esturion.net (Postfix, from userid 112) id 84AE7260203; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:46:03 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on acipenser.esturion.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from feyerabend.n1.pinyon.org (quine.pinyon.org [65.101.5.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acipenser.esturion.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48BB2260176 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:45:59 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <54722B67.1080208@pinyon.org> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:45:59 -0700 From: "Russell L. Carter" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: value of maintaining emacs-mode packages in ports References: <1416699134.31598.2.camel@mccarthy> <5d99ed09.24995b87@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <5d99ed09.24995b87@fabiankeil.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:46:11 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 11/23/14 02:05, Fabian Keil wrote: > "Christopher J. Ruwe" wrote: > >> I am well aware that very probably I might be starting a rant >> thread, however, I am genuinely interested in opinions from the >> community. >> >> Since version 24, Emacs, the very good operating system missing >> only a decent editor, has developed a package manager for Emacs >> extensions. Some good repos exist, packages are usually installed >> to ~/.emacs.d and I have come to really enjoy that way of >> installing packages. >> >> In that light and as the ports maintainer of math/ess, the Emacs >> speaks statistics R-mode of emacs, I am asking myself >> specifically whether I add any real benefit in maintaining >> math/ess. More generally, I am interested in community answers as >> to whether it is really useful to maintain >> Emacs-extension-packages in ports. > > I don't use math/ess, but in general I prefer to install > application extensions from ports. I already know how it works and > this way I also can check were the software is coming from without > having to familiarise myself with various different package > managers and know that checksums have been verified before > installing it. > > Does ELPA verify checksums? After searching the web for a couple > of minutes My impression is that it installs whatever the server > (or a MITM) provides but hopefully my impression is incorrect. I prefer to let emacs manage its packages, so that I can easily move my environment from system to system (not necessarily FreeBSD). My inits and all the required packages live in one place: .emacs.d. I have zero emacs ports installed, other than emacs itself. rsyncing .emacs.d to linuxen works as it should. elpa/melpa et al were a little rocky a few years ago but now things are smooth. I completely agree that the issues raised in favor of ports are also valid. Best regards, Russell > Fabian > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUcitdAAoJEFnLrGVSDFaEZuEP/0L3ysfQEXlqxnWTKU9Ppeqy fKGY2FU45FIBol3N0mE/DcUUgqlpBgnvdW0aJtxm+eoFQcwd9fkxP7CEJZ7w4bzx /qry2s+hvOX9bBjUWTebB0k+Gbmea7xDJEqy5aDGZokcHAM8r5ICRWCV0H/WJZkP s4TBSmHrp6HvKxGu5qtORlkZLln8fF0ZBS5th3z33En7GQ3G8xEY1T+h6veWvGtN 4UPCfnadbv4hmTKzmLD2c8N3OXj230a7jBB5LgDX/CmNbz8kmomhmFG6XjOK3y9s NKUyo9hVTSQwdBExgLanVuSKkIFHuZeFWDIW2o+TiayIcHzJuKR0g/FEOBLuUpXM SPcXYBxZiDSpFmRZu0OyliURNdfW1vKd8J5nEUB6NuMPLzR6gTKM6WhkJM7QWTkR JEnSROc+Pq7Lpbu+Fv4HfCOdYOwzkjhJ7LYir+aq5ToHIwfRkVDlJ6/OmaEHrj28 1K4SB94iwpsJAygWkNVu1grlMVbTabdpHvvZgtF9QQBndXGwf+8mhlemD/4hlqYZ UlE1CN+5D6p/6GBQugkQ+br2/Kpu0km9AUSAoVVtVBsFFZmOTxffljIajcC/2I59 VwlybSDuzOoXpP3esOH0wfRMA5yM1c0x8ZZ0bIKmoQ9R5ExJtd5xgakieNrdNQ9k 5GGjoNFEc2+gyZcltB25 =8iqG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----