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[89.204.154.193]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y12sm4540186wmj.6.2020.01.29.19.21.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:21:18 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.40.2.2.4\)) Subject: Re: arm64 as Tier 1 for FreeBSD 13 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 04:21:17 +0100 References: <84926.1580333803@critter.freebsd.dk> <202001292142.00TLgV9N066161@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: Warner Losh , freebsd-arm@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 487QcL285hz4ZNn X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[193.154.204.89.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arm@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.43), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.52), asn: 15169(-1.78), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 03:21:23 -0000 > Am 29.01.2020 um 22:51 schrieb Warner Losh : >=20 > =E2=80=A6.. manpower... >=20 > Warner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=E2=80=9C =46rom my personal view the RPI-thing is overrated , it=E2=80=99s just another 4-core.. and if you ever made e.g. a -j16 buildworld buildkernel in 90 minutes or so on aarch64 : you = won=E2=80=99t=20 expect the big revolution in computing from this RPI-gadget. :-) but it doesn't look that bad for fbsd on RPI4 ( e.g. better than on = Rock960 which causes u-boot-issues(only openbsd runs on it via the stock = firmware): With me RPI4 survived a make- j4 buildworld buildkernel with only few = problems(had to increase sizeof /tmp-folder)... directly on uSD, mounted as root. Well , after trying to boot to GENERIC-MMCCAM it actually hangs=20 @ mountroot ... something like this should be implemented : https://reviews.freebsd.org/D15955 , I guess it will then no problem to first get network from proprietary = brcmfmac-driver (because I had no problem doing that in netbsd with their = SDIO-implementation). Another question is if using the proprietary Broadcom-drivers will be an = accepted way to go, But why not , RPI wouldn=E2=80=99t boot fbsd without those drivers and = WIFI is even prepared in src : ( /usr.bin/sdiotool/sdiotool.c ) .. Well,of course manpower is a problem(e.g. I=E2=80=99m too tired tonight = to write code :-)=20 =E2=80=94 Regards=20 Klaus