From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed Jan 1 22:19:31 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1D31E242A for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 22:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47p5Dy62DXz4S2J for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2020 22:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Portmaster failing Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 15:19:28 -0700 References: <8DDB987C-5276-4F35-BBD1-84043ED26E03@kreme.com> <288FEB87-3D88-4696-BF83-6918DAE656E5@kreme.com> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4F3040D5-0EA9-44B7-BD69-3CF57A2E19B8@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47p5Dy62DXz4S2J X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.79)[-0.788,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.977,0]; IP_SCORE(0.01)[ip: (0.01), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(0.13), asn: 209(-0.02), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2020 22:19:31 -0000 On 01 Jan 2020, at 14:18, Adam Weinberger wrote > This is why we practically beg people to use poudriere.=20 If FreeBSD is going to REQUIRE poudriere, then go ahead and do so. If = not, then the other packages managers and the ports tree itself have to = work without screwing the admin, failing to build for inexplicable = reasons, inputting a dependency that breaks other packages, or my = favorite, failing to update dependencies. > I've mentioned this to you before, lbutlr, because you post about > encountering these snags quite regularly, and your (quite warranted) > frustration is apparent. I really do think that your FreeBSD life will > be simpler if you switch from portmaster to poudriere. It is not that simple, of course. This will take quite a lot of work, = and a lot of time, for something that I deal with a handful of times a = year. This means that for the foreseeable future, I would be starting = over basically every time there is some issue. > They are simply an inevitable consequence of using a very old and = broken tool If the tool is broken, remove it. > You are right that there wasn't a warning, and that was a major > mistake that should not have happened. security/openssl and > security/openssl111 should have contained messages about this switch. Since openssl updated about a week ago, this oversight falls into the = class that I would call =E2=80=9Cinexcusable=E2=80=9D. If I did this on = a job I would (rightly) be immediately fired. I would fire me if I did something like this. --=20 In the 60's, people took acid to make the world appear weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it appear normal.