From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 24 10:52: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8D6153D0 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:51:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from ARCADIA (arcadia.i-plus.net [209.100.20.198]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA30521; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:50:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Troy Settle" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Doug White" Cc: Subject: RE: speaking of 3.4... Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:51:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 In-reply-to: <2190.943382085@localhost> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A suggestion if I might. Not everyone has the time to do proper preparation for testing a release candidate. But, if provided with a copy of the CD, I'm sure you could find enough people to test and report problems. I've had a subscription to FreeBSD since 2.something, and usually never use the CDs shipped to me except for the occasional fresh installation or retrieving a package that I'm too lazy to build from the ports. But, in the interest of building a better product for release, if I were to recieve an RC distribution on CD, I would gladly install and test it. So, how about a release cycle like this: Step 1: Freeze the code Burn 100-200 copies (CD 1 only) Ship to folks who volunteer to test Step 2: Receive and collate feedback Step 3: Fix bugs If there were major bugs, repeat If no major bugs, then release Ya know, I might even be willing to pay $5-10 for the privilage of being an RC tester. -Troy ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jordan K. Hubbard ** Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 1:35 PM ** To: Doug White ** Cc: Jordan K. Hubbard; stable@FreeBSD.ORG ** Subject: Re: speaking of 3.4... ** ** ** > Our release QA is horrible. Look at what Apple does -- they sit on the ** > release candidate for a *month*, with *no changes at all*, ** before putting ** ** The problem is that Apple also gets people to LOOK at the release ** candidate for that month. I generally get absolutely no feedback at ** all until 2 days before the release goes "gold" and then a lot more ** feedback about a week after. They always start the same way, too ** "Sorry I didn't have time to tell you this before, but..." :-) ** ** - Jordan ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message