From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 15 18:51:08 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EE7C1022 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from corvid.alerce.com (corvid.alerce.com [206.125.171.163]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 08B0F71407 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (76-226-160-236.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.226.160.236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corvid.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 87209EDC7; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:51:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alerce.com; s=dkim; t=1563216663; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=LMo1I/HL+4YWZCWBHIGC//ahLpzaKneKGUUOE97Iwpg=; b=CYzSQDbUjeKFzM6nU8D8abzQK5mbNymBwrM8DTUjjUg87WyrfwTS/0daRcpbCdQrG8Axv5 kJmSXWy03r5S+DRusqgkkxn3IdVMJgiYQv8Jge/yxmm55JeHNC7pKH+QEgwMaixFcIbt+S cBTe3olSIahkf2dszvt/dUqzR0piX3x/6UrbW4HpDHXSB4Zk/h6WQVIU/lw9cdPPfovTXW 5ZR6+zx61Ec0fqPiMtBH6M1whxI9qLtwJiS+83nVOtobWbjkbxTIlXdFUb4EZY0+DScSsj 3ND7zgspEdDvunRMuthuTDCF5UPKIzYdhJE1WZg0MN1ytFSF0leEDYiIlWYz/Q== Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6A4CD20100EBEB; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:51:03 -0700 (PDT) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <23852.51991.375594.393721@alice.local> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 11:51:03 -0700 To: "Sijmen J. Mulder" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What does it mean to use ports? In-Reply-To: <20190715162932.80cb7efd26d9e89f7fc65724@sjmulder.nl> References: <87o91wqjl5.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190715021053.2f82c84c.freebsd@edvax.de> <23851.53207.561626.837532@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <877e8jq5zm.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190715162932.80cb7efd26d9e89f7fc65724@sjmulder.nl> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 26.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin14.5.0) Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 08B0F71407 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=alerce.com header.s=dkim header.b=CYzSQDbU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=alerce.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of hartzell@alerce.com designates 206.125.171.163 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=hartzell@alerce.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[alerce.com:s=dkim]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[hartzell@alerce.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: corvid.alerce.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[alerce.com,none]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[alerce.com:+]; IP_SCORE(-0.97)[ipnet: 206.125.168.0/21(-4.53), asn: 25795(-0.26), country: US(-0.06)]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.72)[-0.720,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:25795, ipnet:206.125.168.0/21, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:51:09 -0000 Sijmen J. Mulder writes: > hw wrote: > > > Verbum sapienti: be careful when you do this. The settings in > > > make.conf are used for _every_ compilation on the system - ports > > > ... and world ... and the kernel, > > > > Thanks for the warning --- Gentoo has something like that, too. > > Note that, having adjusted USE on Gentoo, 'emerge --newuse @world' will > cause the whole tree's dependency graph to be updated and all affected > packages recompiled. I don't think any of the BSD port systems have > this feature. You can achieve something similar with poudriere, updating the ports tree that it uses; rebuilding the rebuilding the things, then using `pkg upgrade` to update the system. I use portshaker to merge my personal ports collection (ports that haven't been merged or that I want to do differently from the standard) with the standard tree, which is nice. g.