Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 16:16:16 -0700 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: <vk@vkci.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: Oracle! Message-ID: <004501c138bc$42b43d00$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <OIEKKBEPBGBAKLOBKGLCMENGCGAA.vk@vkci.com>
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>-----Original Message----- >From: Victor Kane [mailto:vk@vkci.com] >Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 12:21 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; >inquiries@windriver.com; support@windriver.com >Subject: RE: Oracle! > > >You failed to explain your relation to freebsd project... >That would be nice to know. For enlightenment. > You might try by reading my sig which is included with just about everything I post. > >A leading DB like Oracle - if ported to BSD platform - has a huge >potential to bring wide corporate acceptance to the OS, as well as >FUNDS - to the project AND people behind it. That's for enlightenment. > As I said, if you belive this then get on the phone with Oracle and start demanding it. What you don't seem to understand is that Oracle listens to it's customers and if your an Oracle customer you have more pull with them than any of us do. >Begging is not in my arsenal of conduct, period. And I am not looking for >help in helping to make YOUR project successful and YOUR ass (not a rat's >one) happier. But, of course, you failed to grasp it too. > No but you are looking for help making Oracle successful on FreeBSD. Well, I have to say that I'm not an Oracle customer and me going to Oracle and demanding FreeBSD support is a waste of time. It would be equivalent to me going to a dress manufacturer and demanding a new line of dresses. I don't buy dresses. >Oh, one more thing, Ted, in case you failed to notice - you are a total >jerk. > Thank you sir may I have another! >Please feel free not to waste your time replying and do NOT send out >messages marked "on Behalf Of Victor Kane". I'll sue your ass for that, >mr. Enlightenment. > You did me the courtesy of reading my first response, and for that I owe you the courtesy of reading yours. I'm sorry you don't like ideas from people that are different than your own. Perhaps you ought to re-read the First Amendment. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm@toybox.placo.com] >Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 2:25 PM >To: vk@vkci.com; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; inquiries@windriver.com; >support@windriver.com >Subject: RE: Oracle! > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Victor Kane >>Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 8:06 AM >>To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; inquiries@windriver.com; >>support@windriver.com >>Subject: Oracle! >> >> >> Guys, it's a shame to see FreeBSD where it is vs. where it >>should and could be. I have to put up with surrogate like Linux when >>my client can't pay for a Sun box to run Oracle server. > >I fail to understand this when Solaris is available from Sun for free. >Go to http://www.sun.com for enlightenment. > >>It does not take >>much more then ./configure; make; to port Oracle source to FreeBSD. >>This would earn FreeBSD a huge credit in CTOs' eyes - the one it >>deserves so much. Why not talk Larry into this? He's an adventurous >>guy and will bite the thing dead after you show him the bench marks! >> > >If your looking for someone to talk Larry into it, go no further than the >mirror. > >>It hurts me seeing it stock at web servers! I am ready to pay $200 >>an hour support rates - if I have to! Just give me a reason. > >Don't waste your time telling us that - it's Oracle that you need to be >talking to. > >> It'll be still better TCO vs. Sun. It's just a shame I can't >>have it. > >It's a shame you haven't asked the people who need asking about it. > >> If the project needs a "softer" start - other vendors may be >>less cocky then Larry, Sybase, Informix - you know better than me... >>what am I talking about... >> > >I fail to understand why we - most of whom don't give a rat's ass that >Oracle isn't ported onto FreeBSD, and would certainly not pay for it - are >better candidates to explain this to Oracle than you - who do care that >Oracle >is not on FreeBSD and is also ready to pay money for it. > >I think you've lost sight of what motivates commercial software companies >like >Oracle. Please don't beg us to help you convince Oracle to port to FreeBSD >unless you've already been talking to Oracle about it. > > >Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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