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On 15 July 2014 22:08, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 07:13:44PM -0700, dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote:
>> destroying all vestiges of that environment purely for the sake of
>> saying "it's clean" seems counter to the UNIX pathos.
>
> I think you mean "ethos" here, but frankly I like it better this way.

I'm a bit confused by this thread.

screen and tmux are interactive processes. They're not designed to be
run as UNIX services.

Why is this even happening?



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