From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 5 07:39:30 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674101065670 for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 07:39:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375688FC1B for ; Wed, 5 May 2010 07:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc30 with SMTP id 30so726936pvc.13 for ; Wed, 05 May 2010 00:39:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Ji+9vaotiuYSN8Lxh1l/yf/WEDRN1EPA82TquxQdIWk=; b=uPqDhFIX+hs5i7h9UKPLawJ/tmtQfcgq97nG1sPuBuZaXP56Zyih3HbquCUWsHVT2J Z5SvvXYwgLVbSvOVDg3giThR2awEw170xm5tb1vEl9Lf/yR7xg0PYhVAgM1gBlPokJot 0sWMzduo6qUDA4YTDdNnzvgf5cYkMaRtmeapc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=NkdRfqA6OikMgFSGVsEma5+BfVotpcsapAYoCUlDGPSkjIplsfLUgn0hCT7BrNcQrY ybjbwvNmi14Jo8BW0o0hSEMc/qI6G1AewkAcfui87lDaDSCOSDZyDebWQQum6YI+PdAG 65tmHSmV3BAQXZtmKR2S0Qhr+FsYc46DtGoVg= Received: by 10.114.188.4 with SMTP id l4mr7702483waf.19.1273045166399; Wed, 05 May 2010 00:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.203] (deviant.freebsdgirl.com [173.8.183.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c22sm33251467wam.6.2010.05.05.00.39.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 May 2010 00:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <4BE11E4E.5000604@interactive-net.de> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 00:39:26 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3F2B5DDD-23EC-4150-91F2-90D0A728DB54@gmail.com> References: <4BBFD502.1010507@elischer.org> <4BE11E4E.5000604@interactive-net.de> To: Reinhard Haller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer Subject: Re: ports and PBIs X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 07:39:30 -0000 On May 5, 2010, at 12:29 AM, Reinhard Haller wrote: > Am 04.05.2010 20:40, schrieb Julian Elischer: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> To achieve this goal we get another ports management application and >>> hope it handles also the non trivial tasks of the non simple apps. >>=20 >> there is a PBI helper app. but PBIs are actually executables with the >> installation app built in. >=20 > portupgrade PBIapp should work? I think it's cowsay, not portupgrade, but yes... using multiple tools = would be required AFAIK, because they work at different abstraction = levels. >>>=20 >>> If the PBIs come with all libraries and resources we get even more >>> problems with multiple db installations not less. >>=20 >> not that's the whole point. The app has it's own linraries HIDDEN >> within itself. >> it can not interfere with other apps. >> (except in a port-number manner) but generally >> apps for which PBIs are good do not do that sort of thing. Well, I'm sure there are other conflicts, but that is most likely the = most prevalent issue. Any kind of resource contention where only one of = any given resource that isn't timeshareable is available would be an = issue, or where other potential issues may be like hardcoded paths, = defaults, etc. > Speaking about db installations we end up (worst case) with = imcompatible > files. Thanks, -Garrett=