From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Nov 28 23:27:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01668 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:27:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01663 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:27:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA05267; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:56:50 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id RAA00773; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:56:48 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981129175648.F456@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:56:48 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Wes Peters , dyson@iquest.net Cc: Terry Lambert , advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where was FreeBSD? References: <199811290408.XAA11525@y.dyson.net> <3660E1E8.27016719@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3660E1E8.27016719@softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Sat, Nov 28, 1998 at 10:55:52PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 28 November 1998 at 22:55:52 -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > "John S. Dyson" wrote: >> >> Terry Lambert said: >>> >>> o FreeBSD is still third-party layered software unfriendly >>> (some would call it antagonistic). There is no real >>> method in FreeBSD for installing software that is supposed >>> to start at system startup and shutdown gracefully at >>> system shutdown. >>> >>> Fix: Change the FreeBSD "init" process. This is political >>> suicide, but technological necessity. >>> >> No question about that. SYSV init or something close to that >> is necessary. > > It shouldn't be all that difficult; have the arguments in that past > been "it's just not BSD-ish?" OK, I must be missing something, but what does System V init have that makes it easier to start up or shut down an application? /etc/rc*.d isn't the problem: that's a question of scripts, not init. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message