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Date:      Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:27:09 +0200
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= <fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_Peltom=E4ki?= <atte.peltomaki@iki.fi>
Cc:        Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Richard Yao <ryao@gentoo.org>, Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo@gmail.com>, openrc@gentoo.org
Subject:   Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Atte Peltom=E4ki <atte.peltomaki@iki.fi> =
wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 03:53:26PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
>> It's unfortunate that this thread evolved into a discussion about
>> replacing rc.d, since that's almost certainly not relevant to the
>> original topic of improving the overall boot time.
>
> Improving boot times can be done in two ways:
>
> 1) Implement proper service dependency handling framework
> 2) Implement ad-hoc service dependencies
>
> Second choice is obviously not kosher for all things BSD.
>
> *if* the first choice can be implemented into existing rc with
> reasonable amount of work and non-intrusively, it could be a viable
> approach.
>
> Otherwise it would make more sense to go ahead and implement a real
> improvement over existing system. In my view, this is a similar issue to
> what UFS2 had; rather breathe some life into old system without taking
> much risks and have ZFS take over later as a real improvement.
>
> In any case, improving boot times is the very least significant benefit
> from implementing service dependencies, especially for an OS such as
> FreeBSD which isn't meant to be rebooted except during OS upgrade.

Sorry, but as it's been said in this list, there are several use
patterns for FreeBSD. I use it in both a laptop and a PC and I boot
them every time I want to use them. Believe it or not I don't like let
them consuming energy and making noise during night, specially the
laptop :)

So please, let's assume FreeBSD has to be (re)booted from time to time
and not only for OS upgrades or when it crashes.

Also, in embedded systems, boot time is an important factor.

>
> --
> Atte Peltom=E4ki
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