From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 24 23:03:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9AF5106564A; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 23:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rcm@fuzzwad.org) Received: from mail.volente.us (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:7:d47::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B118FC0C; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 23:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zombie.fuzzwad.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.volente.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6ON33EC087717; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:03:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rcm@fuzzwad.org) Message-ID: <4E2CA4A7.7020100@fuzzwad.org> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:03:03 -0500 From: Ron McDowell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Whitehorn References: <20110724162937.33865zm0kn4ztdwk@econet.encontacto.net> <4E2C8FBE.7040003@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4E2C8FBE.7040003@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current , eculp Subject: Re: Trying to install current from a memory stick and then a DVD and got a new and strange installer. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 23:03:08 -0000 Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 07/24/11 16:29, eculp wrote: >> I have been hearing about a new installer but I obviously have not >> payed enough attention, I am afraid. I started running freebsd at 2.0 >> and never really had a problem with understanding the installation >> program. There is always a first time, I guess. >> >> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/201105/ >> >> When booting I seem to get a screen that makes me remember installer >> screens of the 1980s. (They were not exactly intuitive.) >> >> I somehow got the idea that the new installer was graphic. Maybe >> something like PCBsd that is not bad at all. I use it on all our >> employees computers. Actually, after seeing this, I would love to >> have the old installer back. Is their an option for that? >> >> Does this new ASCII installer have a "how to" with a bit of >> information on the flow of the installation. >> >> Thanks, > > Can you please describe what you didn't like about it, and what you > would prefer be changed? "Reminiscent of the 1980s" is not really > helpful, especially given that the new installer in fact looks very > much like sysinstall, which you seemed to like. > -Nathan > I'll have to agree with the original poster. I have no problem with the look and feel of the new installer, but when functionality that WAS there is now gone, that's a problem. My two, make that three, biggest gripes are: 1) no "back" button/selection/mechanism on each screen. Rebooting because I fat-fingered something on the previous screen is, well, unacceptable. 2) no "minimal" install. Most of my installs are single- or few-task servers where I need a base os and a couple ports. 3) I see no "post-install" uses on the new one. Sysinstall could be used on an up-and-running system to do everything from adding a user to changing a nameserver and more. -- Ron McDowell San Antonio TX