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[131.111.193.104]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b15sm25173753wrr.27.2021.06.22.04.49.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Jun 2021 04:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) Subject: Re: git: e013e36939ac - main - linux(4): Get rid of Linuxulator kernel build options. From: Jessica Clarke In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 12:49:02 +0100 Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org" , "dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3B06AC5C-4569-4DCB-AA75-42005E781EFB@freebsd.org> References: <202106211656.15LGuXQU059224@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <4C0E8010-EFBF-42A5-90EF-A502E7BBD3D7@freebsd.org> To: Dmitry Chagin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G8PnD6HR5z4WSg X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2021 11:49:05 -0000 On 22 Jun 2021, at 12:45, Dmitry Chagin wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 12:36:26PM +0100, Jessica Clarke wrote: >> On 22 Jun 2021, at 12:01, Dmitry Chagin wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 10:56:38PM +0100, Jessica Clarke wrote: >>>> On 21 Jun 2021, at 17:56, Dmitry Chagin = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> The branch main has been updated by dchagin: >>>>>=20 >>>>> URL: = https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3De013e36939ac87b53195370fb5e29f29= c1a4b5c6 >>>>>=20 >>>>> commit e013e36939ac87b53195370fb5e29f29c1a4b5c6 >>>>> Author: Dmitry Chagin >>>>> AuthorDate: 2021-06-22 05:32:39 +0000 >>>>> Commit: Dmitry Chagin >>>>> CommitDate: 2021-06-22 05:32:39 +0000 >>>>>=20 >>>>> linux(4): Get rid of Linuxulator kernel build options. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Stop confusing people, retire COMPAT_LINUX and COMPAT_LINUX32 = kernel >>>>> build options. Since we have 32 and 64 bit Linux emulators, we = can't build both >>>>> emulators together into the kernel. I don't think it matters, = Linux emulation >>>>> depends on loadable modules (via rc). >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cut LINPROCFS and LINSYSFS for consistency. >>>>=20 >>>> I don=E2=80=99t see why these two should be deleted? They currently = build fine, >>>> and GNU/kFreeBSD kernels enable them. They might work as modules, = but I >>>> would worry that too many parts of userland would try and read them >>>> before /etc/init.d/kldutils (the init script that loads modules) = loads >>>> them, so then we=E2=80=99d have to mess around with GRUB configs to = preload >>>> them. If the options work, please leave them in. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> both FS modules depend on linux.ko on i386 or linux_common.ko on = amd64, >>> so it doesn't make sense to have options for them >>=20 >> But that still worked, and was even in NOTES so being tested by LINT. >>=20 >>>> There=E2=80=99s a separate debate of whether this is the = =E2=80=9Cright=E2=80=9D fix for >>>> COMPAT_LINUX*; arguably that *should* work and it=E2=80=99s a bug = that they >>>> don=E2=80=99t, not a feature, even if it=E2=80=99s not of much = interest to support=E2=80=A6 >>>>=20 >>>> I=E2=80=99d like to see the second half reverted, please, and = believe the first >>>> should be too, but I feel less strongly about that. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I think that descendants should adapt to upstream, esp since there = is no >>> KBI or ABI breakage. btw, debian wiki says gnu/kFreeBSD unmaintained >>> since 2014. That is the reason to worry about dead project? >>=20 >> As the current maintainer this is news to me. I see no such comment = on >> the port=E2=80=99s wiki page[1]. >>=20 >> Jess >>=20 >> [1] https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD >>=20 > I read: https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/index.en.html That doesn=E2=80=99t say unmaintained, that says not officially = supported. It=E2=80=99s the equivalent of Tier 1 vs not Tier 1 in FreeBSD, and falls into the same category as powerpc, ppc64 and riscv64, among other architectures. It just means that there are no stable releases, only unstable (-CURRENT equivalent). Jess