From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 13 16:35:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA20823 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncd.com (firewall-user@welch.ncd.com [192.43.160.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20804 Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:35:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by ncd.com; id QAA29001; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:40:09 -0800 Received: from z-code.z-code.com(192.82.56.21) by welch.ncd.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma028987; Tue, 13 Feb 96 16:39:56 -0800 Received: from zolaris.z-code.com (zolaris.z-code.com [192.82.56.41]) by z-code.z-code.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11091; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:33:04 -0800 Received: by zolaris.z-code.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01431; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:30:55 -0800 From: "Ulf Zimmermann" Message-Id: <9602131630.ZM1429@zolaris.z-code.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 16:30:53 -0800 In-Reply-To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) "Re: Frame Relay and FreeBSD" (Feb 13, 19:20) References: <199602140020.TAA05047@etinc.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) To: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: Frame Relay and FreeBSD Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Feb 13, 19:20, dennis wrote: > Subject: Re: Frame Relay and FreeBSD > >On Feb 13, 12:12, Nate Williams wrote: > >> Subject: Frame Relay and FreeBSD > >> I *really* like having the firewall features I'm using now. I suppose I > >> could simply stick my firewall box and whatever external equipment I use > >> on a separate ethernet segment, although it would require me buying > >> another ethernet card as well a Cisco or whatever. > >> > >> We're trying to do Video Conferencing, and ISDN isn't available in > >> Montana (and won't be available for quite a while). The only option we > >> have is F.R., either to our ISP or directly to SRI-Menlo. > >> > >> What kind of costs are we looking at here for the networking equipment, > >> etc.? > >> > >> Thanks for any advice you can give, > >> > >> > >> > >> Nate > >>-- End of excerpt from Nate Williams > > > >So far my calculation for FR is: > > > >A Frame Relay card: > > > >ETinc.: > > > >ET/5025 56K/64K $495 > >V.35/EIA-530 option (for T1) $100 > >Frame Relay/X.25 $50 > > > >or > > > >ET5025-16 56K/64K $695 > >V.35/EIA-530 option (for T1) $100 (per port) > >Frame Relay/X.25 $200 > >Dual Port Option $100 > > > >or > > > >ET5025-25 T1 incl Frame Relay $1095 > >Dual Port Option $200 > > > >You need a CSU/DSU for this card, price for 56K/64K is about $250-$600, for > >128K-1.5MB price is starting around $700 and up to $2000. > > > >Or you take cards from SDL Comm, which have only a Frame Relay driver for BSDI > >at the moment. But the cards are cheaper. > > > >RISCom/N2s 56K/64K $490 > >RISCom/N2d dual port 56K/64K $590 > >RISCom/N2dds dual port with one CSU/DSU on board 56K/64K $650 > >RISCom/N2csu dual port with one T1 CSU/DSU on board something around $1100 > >Frame Relay option for BSDI $150 > > > >About monthly Frame Relay I can't say anything, but in California I would pay > >about $275 for 128K > > to clarify this.... > > Realize that you get software and support from BSDI (its their > software)....with our > product you buy the software (and get the support) from us. > > see www.etinc.com/compare.htm for the "biased" poop. > > > BTW..we sell brand-name, high quality CSU/DSUs for (56/64k) 325. and 695. (T1) > and lesser quality ones (still better than an on-board CSU) for $190 (56k) and > $300. (T1....available any day now). > >-- End of excerpt from dennis Dennis, kick your webmaster that he should update the prices ;-) On the web is still $725 for T1. Look I have a price of $1100 from SDL Comm for a 2 port card with CSU/DSU on board and the BSDI Frame Relay option. (Btw. they claim they are better) Even if I take the smallest card from Etinc I have $495 (card) + $100 (V.35 option) + $50 (Frame Relay) + $695 (T1 CSU/DSU) = Total of $1340. With only 1 port and a card there ETinc's web page is saying for 56K/64K (it is some kind of confusing, to say 56K/64K but offer a T1 option). This $240 more then I have from SDL Comm, but SDL has no FreeBSD driver. I am trying at the moment to get $3000 together, so I can get me Frame Relay (128K as it looks like at the moment). That is $1009 for PB, $500 for the provider and rest for hardware I need. Ulf. -- ===================================| NCD Software Div. Z-Code, SysAdmin FreeBSD 2.1.0 is available now! | Phone: 415-899-7941 Fax: 898-8299 -----------------------------------| Rowland Way 101, Novato, CA-94945 Turning PCs into Workstations | E-Mail: ulf@ncd.com ===================================| Phone @home: 510-865-0204