From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 18 20:22:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB4D106566C for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0208FC28; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47E0249C.8030700@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:22:52 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marko Lerota References: <867igo3cih.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> <47C749CF.4010501@FreeBSD.org> <86eja7et3j.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> In-Reply-To: <86eja7et3j.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading to 7.0 - stupid requirements X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:22:52 -0000 Marko Lerota wrote: > Kris Kennaway writes: > >>> Then the servers. Why should I reinstall all my databases and such? >>> I always >>> liked that FreeBSD base (OS) is separated from packages. And no >>> matter what I do with the packages, my OS will always work. I don't >>> want dependency >>> hell like in Linux. Now you are telling me that my database might not work >>> after upgrade to a new version. Is that it? >> First, try to relax. > > Sorry, but I'm pissed off now, not relax any more. > >> portupgrade -faP requests to reinstall everything from precompiled >> packages. It will only fall back to compiling them locally if the >> package is unavailable (e.g. for legal reasons). > > It passed two days from portupgrade -faP, and it didn't finished yet. > To be worse, I have to do it again because the PC had to be rebooted. > So in the next 2-3 days I can sit with my PC and wait with him to > finish the upgrade. It will be three days because of Openoffice!@#!@#!@#!. Are you connected via a modem or something? 2-3 days to download some packages cannot be right if you have a decent internet connection. > And I have to pray the god that I don't have the power loss. > Now apache and acroread doesn't work any more and I'm afraid that > I'll find some other stuff that don't work too. > > So can anyone tell me this is not stupid??? Reinstalling all > applications because of upgrade? This can be called new > installation. Not upgrade. > > Now I'm thinking that It would be much easier that I backup my files, > databases and other stuff and do fresh installation. But why???? > So I can do the same thing when 8_0 comes out? > > This is the worst thing that I found about FreeBSD for now. > This have to be changed or fixed somehow, because the upgrade > is not possible if you have lots of ports installed, and > certainly can't be called upgrade! > I'm sorry you feel that way, but you haven't understood the explanations that you have been given already. Kris