From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 27 18:35:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F20E37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 081C76ACBE; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:05:46 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:05:45 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Bill Moran , a brody , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is Mac OS X in your ports page? Message-ID: <20010528110545.T29739@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3B1064D1.C1EE3C@iowna.com> <000501c0e67d$690f8860$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000501c0e67d$690f8860$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from tedm@toybox.placo.com on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:19:47AM -0700 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 27 May 2001 at 0:19:47 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > On Saturday, May 26, 2001 7:22 PM, Bill Moran wrote: >> a brody wrote: >>> >>> Dear FreeBSD, >>> Technically isn't Mac OS X a PowerPC port of FreeBSD? >>> I would think it belongs here: >> >> I think that if you check your sources, you'll find that OSX isn't quite >> "a port of FreeBSD" >> First off, it doesn't even use the FreeBSD kernel, it uses Mach (unless >> I'm misinformed). >> And while it has a lot of code from the FreeBSD project in it, it really >> is its own animal. I think some of the more serious hackers on the >> FreeBSD project (as well as some of those involved with Darwin) could >> give you a plethora of technical reasons why OSX is not FreeBSD. >> >> Mainly, however, would be that it's not supported and developed by the >> FreeBSD project, so it really doesn't have any place on the web page. > > I agree with Bill but let me point out that the Whistle Interjet > is also a commercial project that was built on FreeBSD, and it > has mention on the FreeBSD website. (although not on that > particular page) > > While the URL is the wrong place for MacOS X, I think that it's > hypocritical to completely ignore it's existence on > http://www.freebsd.org yet at the same time mention so many other > commercial projects that grew out of FreeBSD. The connection > _should_ be mentioned somewhere - after all Apple listed FreeBSD 3.X > specifically on it's website for at least a _year_ in connection > with MacOS X. I don't think this is hypocrisy, it's lack of motivation. You say it should be mentioned somewhere, but not where. Find a good place to mention it, do the mentioning, and we'll see that it gets there. > This is, after all, not something that we should be ashamed of, > regardless of anyones personal feelings about Mac's, but rather > quite the reverse. I don't think there's any particular animosity towards the Mac. Most of us are pretty happy that Apple is using BSD. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message