From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Jun 23 17:16:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.deltanet.com (mail.deltanet.com [216.237.144.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D1E37B401 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net (da001d0191.lax-ca.osd.concentric.net [64.0.144.192]) by mail.deltanet.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5NNqAO10452 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:52:11 -0700 Received: by mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4489957C8; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CC057C7; Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Herman X-X-Sender: pherman@mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: "Geoffrey C. Speicher" , Subject: Re: bug in pw, -STABLE [patch] In-Reply-To: <20020623230923.GM81018@over-yonder.net> Message-ID: <20020623165244.X39062-100000@mammoth.eat.frenchfries.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > I don't claim this is perfect for every case; I'm just taking aim > at the common case, where it's currently far too easy to > accidentally screw yourself in the foot. ...and have the screw (or bullet) delivered as precisely, quickly and efficiently as possible. Clearly, at the root of our disagreement is what we both perceive the problem to be. I don't see problems in the current implementation, aside from bugs that lead to unexpected behavior, i.e. passwd file corruption. You see the problem as a deficiency in the implementation itself, and wish to protect the user from shooting themselves in the foot. Not only do I think that's impossible[*], I choose to fight for my right to shoot myself in the foot as quickly and efficiently as possible, but that's where we'll disagree, and I'll just leave it at that and wish you a good night's sleep. -Paul. [*] Patch to vi refusing to edit filenames containing "master.passwd" withheld by request. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message