From owner-svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org Sat Mar 31 16:58:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-stable-11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D1BF7014D for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 16:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonic316-27.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic316-27.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.130.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 125376C0E5 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 16:58:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1522515498; bh=TMpV+AOBhy7b82uU4ZuDvzgeaLo+96wmk6UGNZfLMes=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=HjD12M7dS4j5H2RWp+gVQMKbLmreFEYC9OFvlAFdElGG82SlT/XC92z5K1QDm4jNoI33O4hDfb1Gu6xzkYr9PaoKx25j5PdOlDTi2WGdvNaWVeLuoa4ItF72AVbvmE6xEWZpzlINJOikUvxiWtuoBZTz61KA57AkodI6kwfatr6Qg99OBzb2/lvo63Df6AlxqVbneLwv/xPudv8hP5PFt1Wl4dP2+HmDAPNR+AfIp2wHrJ2Y/fwF+PZHwEqIbzZFbxEAybUDTIOOkiKakqr9rNzYinsLLfj0j6ioOyZz3AKmxHLLJiR5jYs8hWoEPnWjkcgEZYvku8H9MjHa6+6L5w== X-YMail-OSG: kht6YMMVM1mbPq9aIwnM.4.z8AObbu5jOKniDNmaLJ7HP5PbVDaRHD3TfmAWL5D Ni40sCdhm7Y9eMQBCsWII_1qiUkQNq.prWVogvyDp4oYROS5QoPfXxcKFVT4EC4JwkNxSQz39VUY 1l6TiVxqAvaqXvv1WE6Co_H1h6xztG_6Lo0l3zn__NEwrNMDvi3NOVRsC0xIOZWgBpX_GLooWSYI fHWkalNh05adfi0X24nkj_9Nsx5zPYRidpNQxs_VTxWhOklDjvz_PCRXX6eCjXHHueJnjNNMAY58 H_E94uNSZXV3Kim06vFg8KHI8ejxuHEf1EFfWJIdRkhPc78B7whUX5CEROxYY5pwMy0vM16RFisE 7.Jgnr2faKpPcCf0WGQzjEFVeq94DB9YRaWRGehJoP18qPuPsUcb5nGWpEMHfQ4XeKltoNn5KVt6 _n7MV87Fk5vrPU9SYRvI32yGifGAOnpFyIbXID35lWJc9z8d8.MY0Oh.tjV6IjkoGjN5xdSpFe83 w78CbroyYbg-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic316.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 16:58:18 +0000 Received: from 181.52.72.201 (EHLO [192.168.0.6]) ([181.52.72.201]) by smtp417.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e08d56f35be201b58069f70e579f9493; Sat, 31 Mar 2018 16:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: svn commit: r331838 - in stable/11: . contrib/compiler-rt/include/sanitizer contrib/compiler-rt/include/xray contrib/compiler-rt/lib/BlocksRuntime contrib/compiler-rt/lib/asan contrib/compiler-rt/l... To: Dimitry Andric , Mark Linimon Cc: Antoine Brodin , svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers , re , svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org References: <201803311138.w2VBcKHP014025@repo.freebsd.org> <68DEEF9A-6290-40AD-B51D-E187593C089F@FreeBSD.org> <20180331131818.GA22697@lonesome.com> From: Pedro Giffuni Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 11:58:15 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for only the 11-stable src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 16:58:20 -0000 On 03/31/18 11:44, Dimitry Andric wrote: > On 31 Mar 2018, at 15:18, Mark Linimon wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 02:42:01PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: >>> It's been almost 3 months now since clang 6 landed in head, and if >>> those ports require USE_CXXSTD=gnu++98 to be fixed, why haven't those >>> already been changed already? >> Because it takes a lot of time and effort to do it? > I don't want to belittle anyone's work here, but I am very disappointed > that it apparently takes more than 3 months (half the lifecycle of a > complete upstream llvm release!) to fix broken ports. Don't maintainers > read their email, or care about their ports? > I have been receiving emails for 3 months about a port that broke from the clang update and while I care about my ports. I am not running current on the machine where I regularly use that port. It is important but not urgent. Thanks to the update I can now start looking a it. >> This basically torpedoes the work I've been trying to do to catch tier-2 >> up to tier-1, on 11. I had been trying to to identify all the problems >> that existed beforehand, before starting in on the clang6 ones. (Many >> people have also been contributing to fixing clang6/amd64/current errors, >> and I wanted to let the work settle, and not duplicate.) >> >> Finally, if this had gone in just two days later, it would not have >> affected the Q2 package builds. I could have lived with that a lot more >> easily. >> >> I am very disappointed in the timing of this change. > In fact, I thought this was the perfect timing, so that the quarterlies > are built with clang 6, and it has enough time to settle for the 11.2 > slush. If this was merged later, somebody else would probably have > grumbled that I had "merged it just before slush". :) > > -Dimitry > Pedro.