From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 29 01:26:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7A41065670 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shuvaev@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de) Received: from mailrelay.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (mailrelay.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.3.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7248FC0A for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shuvaev@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de) Received: from virusscan.mail (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailrelay.mail (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9404A07CB; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:26:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virusscan.mail (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2EBA07C8; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:26:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wthp192.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.40.192]) by mailmaster.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68ECA07BC; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:26:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.my.domain ([80.129.137.177]) by mail.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Lotus Domino Release 8.0.2) with ESMTP id 2008112902263248-203 ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:26:32 +0100 Received: by localhost.my.domain (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:26:35 +0100 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:26:35 +0100 From: Alexey Shuvaev To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20081129012635.GA1675@localhost.my.domain> References: <1227917428.3603.162.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1227917428.3603.162.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Organization: Universitaet Wuerzburg User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on domino1/uni-wuerzburg(Release 8.0.2|August 07, 2008) at 11/29/2008 02:26:32 AM, Serialize by Router on domino1/uni-wuerzburg(Release 8.0.2|August 07, 2008) at 11/29/2008 02:26:32 AM, Serialize complete at 11/29/2008 02:26:32 AM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-wuerzburg.de Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kde4 install - no Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:26:35 -0000 On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:10:28AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > Funny thing happened to me on a new install... > > [snip] > > A day and a half later, the install is finished so I run kdm. Not found > so I run a find search and then run /usr/local/kde4/bin/kdm. It comes up > saying it can't find and run the Xserver on display :0. What the?! > > So I run a search on pkg_version -v and find xorg is not installed- what > the?! Maybe I'm missing something here, but I thought installing kde4 > would install xorg (I'm pretty sure it has before if I remember right- > it has been a while, but I'm sure I'm not that daft) as it kinda needs > it to run and ports generally install dependencies. Has someone > forgotten this in the Makefile? > > Not trying to be picky, but I thought it might more sense and offer my > view :) > Well, I would say it is not a bug, it is a feature of X window system. I think that X libraries are there, it is X server missing. One can install all X applications on one machine (let's say, server) and X servers on any number of graphical terminals (yes, X servers are run on what is normally called a client). After that it is possible to point clients on the server to the right X server (via DISPLAY environment, for example). That way the application will be run on server displaying output and receiving input from the remote X server. (Yes the terminology is weird :) If you don't care about unnecessary components you can cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make intstall clean Hope, this explains something, Alexey.