From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 29 12:52:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0004BE4 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@FreeBSD.org) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9372E24AC for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id E117621FD5; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web3 ([10.202.2.213]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:52:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:cc:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=f4DYJXPQgT72tcd+2LdpoA/r0oY=; b=SjX HqO3953rvOcti2jaaNXaMIAw+kQpWM3pzy4/MqyqfCwIKLy02xTA8cCAx5dccFqx t5uM7BPBp8G5+ivT92JtXZMdHDXD747k6OJBzgU//3ik+rn2Q8IxUANfb1twKn+e F7aPXJm49E7cBLPekq3YFB11IKXh7Lj8K3gyGxAM= Received: by web3.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 3E96FB00032; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1377780770.11951.15550057.2F8C551C@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: +WuiF7d2KvS/YO1oib6pK9ZOqVqux9nljmwFjjfGnzIb 1377780770 From: Mark Felder To: Rick Macklem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-be0d4992 In-Reply-To: <1440314933.15156431.1377780640143.JavaMail.root@uoguelph.ca> References: <1440314933.15156431.1377780640143.JavaMail.root@uoguelph.ca> Subject: Re: fixing "umount -f" for the NFS client Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 07:52:50 -0500 Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:52:59 -0000 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013, at 7:50, Rick Macklem wrote: > > Finally, neither of these options are safe to use for NFSv4, because > operations that manipulate state (like locks) cannot be safely > interrupted, > since they will leave the lock in an undefined state, at least for the > FreeBSD server. > So, at least for NFSv4, a forced dismount is a necessary alternative. > I was not aware of this specific issue, so thank you for the warning