From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jul 20 20:36:23 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0F2B9FD1B for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from mx2.mailbox.org (mx2.mailbox.org [80.241.60.215]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.mailbox.org", Issuer "SwissSign Server Silver CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 758F510E8 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@mailbox.org) Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F81B43526 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:36:15 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mailbox.org; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:message-id :date:date:received; s=mail20150812; t=1469046974; bh=YYHkK34jDJ TicvrGChfqlZR3h3N1N9qSOjyM/1nOkm0=; b=ro9kO10J5TqMWLqoYJxP1G6zK2 mY2h8Q3hkoBWHr5puxVvO6v6lEjvnxLhLFkxkFrAdJe4vENuOhkofxbGAZaxjH7O x1KnAg7tNK9IyOKS5izb5WybLOnDWipYsn3rdMHsgLrrT1QcIxryXfwMvgZ2GYk+ Rle8cDZMzQM2ssCmMftCfP/j3TCMMHsucOmm6ZPvTueFuvdwtAF9DImrGq5+LyCg JTiSYwfgOnbng32K8SBBr+rAgOx0zJureqZe2DrY9omxZ8+F++IbVvwrUyYj3K6N rKP0G0Xz119+gxTjLhFSjRGLN2evJMy976Y4C6FCHhwqviSFwJutZ4EkGRBw== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) by hefe.heinlein-support.de (hefe.heinlein-support.de [91.198.250.172]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id 6XQkFKY4prup for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:36:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 22:36:13 +0200 Message-ID: <86vb00jbcy.wl-herbert@mailbox.org> From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UTF-8 by default? In-Reply-To: <20160720140741.yi7vfgmmqtg6eprx@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <20160720140741.yi7vfgmmqtg6eprx@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:36:23 -0000 Baptiste Daroussin skrev: > = > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:47:45AM -0230, Jonathan Anderson wrote: >> On 20 Jul 2016, at 9:13, Tim =C8as wrote: >> = >> > So, without further ado: >> > 1) What are the reasons that UTF-8 isn't the default yet? >> > 2) Would it be possible to make this the default in 11.0? What abo= ut >> > 12.0? >> > 3) Assuming an effort is started towards making UTF-8 the default,= >> > what changes would be required? >> = >> At least according to one of my students (who makes more extensive u= se of >> i18n than I do), enabling UTF-8 by default is pretty straightforward= : >> = >> https://github.com/musec/freebsd/wiki/Common-setup#utf-8-support > = > the LC_COLLATE=3DC is not needed anymore with freebsd 11+ Weird, when I set LC_ALL or LC_COLLATE to nb_NO.UTF-8 I can no longer run ls in $HOME. It hangs until I kill it. Same happens with da_DK.UTF-8; no problem with sv_SE.UTF-8 or en_GB.UTF-8. I am running FreeBSD 11.0-BETA1 i386 (r302984) and I think someone else reported a similiar issue earlier. -- Herbert