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Date:      Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:53:27 +0100
From:      krad <kraduk@gmail.com>
To:        "Brandon J. Wandersee" <brandon.wandersee@gmail.com>
Cc:        Julien Cigar <jcigar@ulb.ac.be>, Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>,  FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: gjournal and TRIM: A safe combination?
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Ah you're a newer generation user then. Some of us old foggies remember a
time long before all these new fangled journals and cow filesystems. The
days of ffs, ext, fat12, dfs, adfs...... I'm not even that old, as ive only
used unix on IP stacks some of the boys and girls in here will remember
decnet and having to flip multiple switches to boot systems, and card
readers. There may even be the odd abacus user as well!!!

On 21 October 2015 at 20:38, Brandon J. Wandersee <
brandon.wandersee@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Julien Cigar writes:
> > Correct me if I'm wrong but, unless there is a bug in Soft Updates (SU),
> > your FS will, in theory, never be corrupted with SU only.
>
> If I read this right, then, would gjournal be overkill for typical
> desktop/laptop use?  UFS2 is perhaps the only filesystems I've ever
> encountered in common use that doesn't have data journaling enabled by
> default, so that's thrown me off somewhat...
>
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