From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 12:22:17 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B695D16A4BF for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9955243FB1 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:22:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07091; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 13:21:57 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030903131429.03609c60@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 13:19:39 -0600 To: Diego Calleja =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Garc=EDa?= From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <20030903202205.7ba5dab2.aradorlinux@yahoo.es> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030902180402.028e2380@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030901143026.029afce0@localhost> <1062427379.15322.12.camel@suzy.unbreakable.homeunix.org> <29508631.20030901165843@mail.ru> <1062427379.15322.12.camel@suzy.unbreakable.homeunix.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20030901143026.029afce0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20030902180402.028e2380@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: sub_0@netcabo.pt cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ugly Huge BSD Monster X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 19:22:17 -0000 At 12:22 PM 9/3/2003, Diego Calleja =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Garc=EDa?= wrote: >*ahem*. I'm not by any means a GPL advocate. You have "linux" in your e-mail address. >Then go and rewrite gnome and kde in a BSD license, ok? Actually, there are opportunities to do things that are MUCH better. Starting with X11 (which was designed for limited CPU, limited memory, and plentiful network bandwidth -- exactly the opposite of today's conditions) puts both of these environments at a big disadvantage. Yes, one would have to build up driver support, but this would be helped by the fact that the X11 code can be mined for information and code to support the cards. >I've nothing against it... > >You'll be at their level by 2025, Why so long? After all, unlike GPLed code, it'd be usable by commercial software vendors, so they'd be likely to support the effort. >go ahead...or make gnome and kde work under freebsd You'll probably achive THIS in about 2025, if ever. They're designed for Linux, not FreeBSD, and the developers have no interest in supporting anything that's not GPLed (or is not Linux). >and get a freebsd desktop TODAY. So, you're suggesting that FreeBSD users put up with incompatibilities, glitches, and an unethical licensing regime merely because they can get something that KINDA works today? This is very shortsighted. Why not just go with Windows? It has all of the same attributes. --Brett