Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:31:21 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter <gsutter@pobox.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: brian@pobox.com, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Marketing FreeBSD / FreeBSD as a pr Message-ID: <19990806223121.T10541@forty-two.egroups.net> In-Reply-To: <2253.934001491@localhost>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 09:51:31PM -0700 References: <19990807004844.28425.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> <2253.934001491@localhost>
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Jordan,
You know how you're constantly talking about having huge numbers of
things that need to be done, and nobody actually doing them? Well...
>On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 05:48:44PM -0700, Brian McGroarty wrote:
> > If the advocacy team wants to work on turning the FreeBSD
> > 4.0-RELEASE release into a major event, I'll contribute articles
1. Brian will contribute articles.
> > on how it's helped me develop for the Nintendo 64, foot the bill
> > to enlist a couple artists' help in producing a nice cover and
2. Brian will pay the bill for cover artwork for a CDROM.
> > help strategize a nice PR maneuver to coincide with release. I
3. Brian will assist with PR, something that is sorely needed.
> > *strongly* believe in FreeBSD, and I'll do what I can to help it
> > along.
4. He is planning unspecified future help in addition to the three
things above.
On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 09:51:31PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> I've also said many times that anyone with better artwork to suggest
> need only step forward with said artwork and I'd be more than happy to
> consider it - where do you think the original "daemon walking out of a
> CD" artwork came from?
You didn't say it to him.
> I've also since spent around $1500 commissioning various bits of
> artwork which nobody seems to like, so if people really have a jones
> to see new artwork they're going to have to start drawing it and
> sending it in because I'm tired of throwing money away.
You won't have to throw money away. Brian has graciously offered
to have it drawn at no charge to FreeBSD or Walnut Creek.
> > But first TPTB need to accept that marketing and presentation
> > are every bit as important as anything else in realizing broad
> > distribution. Even breaking in media takes something that looks
>
> Of course we realize that, we're not idiots. However, I fail to see
> how your original comments attacking the daemon constitute a "positive
> contribution" to changing this.
This was a preliminary suggestion, and was quickly withdrawn when the
result of the suggestion became apparent. Not everyone is intimately
familiar with the innards of BSD culture. A lesson was learned, and
the other offers still extended. You are fixating on one point, and
that point was a quickly dropped part of an offer to do service for
the FreeBSD Project. I cannot believe that you are so hostile
toward potential contributions. You should reread and think about
this offer again, if it's not too late.
Greg
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