From owner-freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 29 05:53:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CE3106564A for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirma@cs.hut.fi) Received: from mail.cs.hut.fi (mail.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE138FC0A for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi ([130.233.192.10]) by mail.cs.hut.fi with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.54) id 1R996a-0005h8-2Z; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:24:20 +0300 Received: from localhost (kirma@localhost) by hutcs.cs.hut.fi (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p8T5OJ4H021891; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:24:19 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: hutcs.cs.hut.fi: kirma owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:24:19 +0300 (EEST) From: Jari Kirma X-X-Sender: kirma@hutcs To: eadler@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <201109290409.p8T49a1v049613@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: References: <201109290409.p8T49a1v049613@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (GSO 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-sysinstall@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bin/46235: sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updating X-BeenThere: freebsd-sysinstall@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Sysinstall Work List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:53:59 -0000 On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, eadler@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: sysinstall(8): NTP servers for Finland require updating > > State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed > State-Changed-By: eadler > State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 29 04:09:36 UTC 2011 > State-Changed-Why: > These servers appear to be working to me as well. If this is still an > issue please reply and I will re open > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=46235 keso.fi is a domain for a regional technical college in Finland - which actually is no more, after merging with another one. These kinds of organizations usually don't have maintenance of NTP services very high on the list of their priorities. They have moved their web presence under a different domain, and eventually when the old one expires, it may well be gone forever. Considering the pace this PR changes, that is happening quite soon. Mikes (as mentioned in the original PR), offers public NTP service, and neither the organization, domain nor the services are likely to suddenly disappear, as they are official maintainers of time standards in Finland. (... and more than that, as their front page tells: "MIKES metrology realises the SI system measurement units in Finland.") These official time standards are not freely available, but stratum 2 service is offered at as best effort service. This is described at http://www.mikes.fi/frameset.aspx?url=page.aspx?contentID=318 (Mikes: "Julkinen NTP-palvelu"), which Google can translate to bearable English.