Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2018 06:17:51 -0600 From: Brad Davis <brd@FreeBSD.org> To: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Renato Botelho <garga.bsd@gmail.com>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, "src-committers" <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, rgrimes@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r334617 - in head: . etc Message-ID: <1528460271.2913956.1400918032.76248AFF@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <A48064ED-352C-4544-90D2-021AFA47F37B@FreeBSD.org> References: <201806041847.w54IlCUu097084@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <1528138550.3632147.1396107464.614818A8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20180605150022.Horde.emnJxb8rKYqAvChLgWoX9vf@webmail.leidinger.net> <1528212242.2273706.1397239144.6BEBF1F9@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20180605164627.GM2450@kib.kiev.ua> <1528222385.2736229.1397446048.17853CA8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20180605182605.GN2450@kib.kiev.ua> <ab9725b4-88a7-9af4-db5b-2886db3aed14@gmail.com> <1528231416.2440607.1397619456.294EF898@webmail.messagingengine.com> <A48064ED-352C-4544-90D2-021AFA47F37B@FreeBSD.org>
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On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, at 10:38 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > > > > On Jun 5, 2018, at 16:43, Brad Davis <brd@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Renato Botelho wrote: > > > On 05/06/18 15:26, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 12:13:05PM -0600, Brad Davis wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > > > >>> I find it often very useful to do > > > >>> (cd src/etc/rc.d && make install) > > > >>> Same for defaults and several other directories which in fact > > > >>> contains> > > >>> non-editable content. Is this planned to keep = working ? > > > >> > > > >> The short answer is, no. All rc.d scripts get moved to the src > > > >> of the program they start.> > > >> > > > >> That said, if there is a big need for this, we can see about > > > >> options to keep them working.> > > >> > > > >> What are you trying to accomplish when you do this? Just > > > >> verify the rc.d scripts match your src tree?> > > > > > > > I avoid mergemaster/etcupdate and whatever else. rc.d and > > > > /etc/rc,> > > > /etc/rc.subr /etc/rc.network are not suitable to et= c, they are > > > > binaries> > > > provided by the project not for the user editing. > > > > > > > > When upgrading the host, esp. on HEAD, i usually refresh scripts > > > > by this> > > > procedure and avoid any editing and implied conflict= resolution > > > > for real> > > > configs. > > > > > > > > Not being able to easily install clean copies of these scripts > > > > would> > > > be very inconvenient and time consuming. > > > > > > If I understood what Brad is saying, each rc.d script will be > > > installed> > > by the application it belongs to. So when it's install= ing SSH it > > > will> > > also install /etc/rc.d/sshd and you will not need to deal w= ith > > > rc.d> > > files on mergemaster anymore. > > > > > > Is it correct, Brad? > > > > Correct. > > > > This makes no sense. Many rc scripts, and other config files, have no> = =E2=80=9Cowner=E2=80=9D outside of etc/... > > Please don=E2=80=99t kill etc/Makefile. This is going to be very > painful to deal> with downstream. I was wrong. We moved startup scripts under sbin/init. So this would be easy to merge. Regards, Brad Davis
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