From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 12 10:21:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEDA106566C; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lstewart@freebsd.org) Received: from lauren.room52.net (lauren.room52.net [210.50.193.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B5E8FC15; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lawrence1.loshell.room52.net (ppp59-167-184-191.static.internode.on.net [59.167.184.191]) by lauren.room52.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B128E7E84A; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:21:30 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <4CDD1529.8070504@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:21:29 +1100 From: Lawrence Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-AU; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20101006 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andre Oppermann References: <20100512124702.GJ2679@rambler-co.ru> <20100713140051.GV99657@mdounin.ru> <4C5BCE48.5070504@freebsd.org> <20100913172453.GG99657@mdounin.ru> <20100927081217.GM44164@mdounin.ru> <4CA09987.8020205@freebsd.org> <20101102001134.GP44164@mdounin.ru> <4CD090EF.4020402@freebsd.org> <4CD64814.2000906@freebsd.org> <4CDD0C7D.1070102@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <4CDD0C7D.1070102@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lauren.room52.net Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Igor Sysoev , Maxim Dounin Subject: Re: net.inet.tcp.slowstart_flightsize in 8-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:21:32 -0000 On 11/12/10 20:44, Lawrence Stewart wrote: > On 11/07/10 17:32, Lawrence Stewart wrote: >> On 11/03/10 09:30, Andre Oppermann wrote: >>> On 02.11.2010 01:11, Maxim Dounin wrote: >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 03:17:59PM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 27.09.2010 10:12, Maxim Dounin wrote: >>>>>> Hello! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 09:24:53PM +0400, Maxim Dounin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>>> Andre, could you please take a look at one more patch as well? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Igor reported that it still sees 100ms delays with rfc3465 turned >>>>>>> on, and it turns out to be similar issue (setting cwnd to 1*MSS) >>>>>>> for hosts found in hostcache. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The problem with setting cwnd from hostcache was already reported >>>>>>> here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/92690 >>>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2007-July/014780.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As using larger cwnd from hostcache may cause problems on >>>>>>> congested links (see second thread) I changed code to only use >>>>>>> cached cwnd as an upper bound for cwnd (instead of fixing current >>>>>>> code). This is also in-line with what we do on connection >>>>>>> restarts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We may later consider re-adding usage of larger cwnd from >>>>>>> hostcache. But I believe it should be done carefully and >>>>>>> probably behind sysctl, off by default. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ping. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the reminder. I'll disable priming CWND from hostcache. >>>> >>>> Ping again. >>>> >>>> I would like to see the patch in question[1] committed and MFC'ed >>>> somewhere before 8.2. >>>> >>>> Andre, if you are just too busy to do it yourself - please say so, >>>> I'll ask somebody else to commit it. >>> >>> Thanks for the reminder. After EuroBSDCon Developer Summit I was >>> busy with other work and most of my tcp work was stalled due to >>> review bandwidth issues. >> >> Sorry for the review bandwidth issues. I'm only just managing to keep my >> head above water at the moment and have had to reduce much of my FreeBSD >> work to a trickle. >> >>> Lawrence, could you please spare a few seconds and take a quick look >>> at the attached patch? >> >> The patch looks fine, please commit. I hope to give the hostcache some >> TLC at some point, but in the meantime it's fine to ignore cached cwnd. > > FYI Andre, this patch got rolled into r215166 because I had to move all > the code around which the patch was based on. Is that going to cause any > issues here? I should have checked prior to committing but completely > forgot I had pulled the patch into my dev tree before creating the mod > CC patch. Gah, I think I've answered my own question. MFCing the patch standalone in time for 8.2 as Maxim requested is not going to be possible. I think I'll have to back out r215166, commit your patch and then recommit the modular CC patch. Unless someone can think of a way that doesn't involve all the mucking about? Cheers, Lawrence