From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 10 07:19:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1EA16A4CE; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 07:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AC443D2F; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 07:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i3AEJ3LL009456; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:19:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Roman Kurakin From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:02:11 +0400." <4077FE63.4010602@cronyx.ru> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:19:03 +0200 Message-ID: <9455.1081606743@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: Bruce M Simpson cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: Mark Murray cc: Nate Lawson Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/random Makefile src/sys/dev/random harvest.c hash.c hash.h nehemiah.c nehemiah.h probe.c randomdev.c randomdev.h randomdev_soft.c randomdev_soft.h yar X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:19:11 -0000 In message <4077FE63.4010602@cronyx.ru>, Roman Kurakin writes: >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>How about we recognize that different users needs different levels of >>randomness ? >> >>Couldn't we provide at three levels of random bits: >> >> 1. "Random enough for games" >> >> 2. "Random enough for money" >> >> 3. "Random enough for lives" >> >How about computations? Well, depends what kind of computations you are talking about obviously. I specifically didn't list that because I have seen so many examples of monte carlo analysis done with rand() that I could cry. People who do stochastic simulation should think about randomization not just belive in some random (pun intended) default. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.