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Date:      Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:54:13 GMT
From:      Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@inwind.it>
To:        cjclark@alum.mit.edu
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Unix 2000...
Message-ID:  <20000930.12541300@bartequi.ottodomain.org>
References:  <Pine.BSI.4.05L.10009290255390.28516-100000@cello.qnet.com> <20000929.13432900@bartequi.ottodomain.org> <xzp7l7v9wvi.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20000930002606.Q81242@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com>

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

On 9/30/00, 8:26:06 AM, "Crist J . Clark" <cjclark@reflexnet.net> wrote
regarding Re: Unix 2000...:


> On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 03:00:01PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@inwind.it> writes:
> > > I seem to understand that the process is far from completion. The
> > > difficulties on the part of M$ clearly show that NT is decidedly n=
ot
> > > the right tool for the job. If they are bent on wasting time (and
> > > money) on this project, then so be it.
> >
> > AFAIK, they're transitioning to Windows 2000, not NT.

> Yup. Looks like they are really doing it this time. The chatter at the=

> last BAFUG was that they have pretty much replaced the FreeBSD-Apache
> machines. Anyone care to whack at the site to see what servers are
> responding? ;)

> Here are some news articles, but they are all about two months old.

>  http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article/0,,3_428711,00.html

>  http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2610894,00.html

>  http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/12290.html

>  http://www.bsdtoday.com/2000/August/Newswire24

>  http://www.ugeek.com/news/geeknews/q22000/gee2000803002036.htm





Oooops, I still had the 10% or so percentage in mind :-)

Summing up: if the operation is completed within this fall, the
initial move to Windows NT 4, then to NT5, ahem, Windows2000, will
have required a 4-year effort -- it was promised in 1997.

Four years... hmmm, correct me if I am wrong or partial: in four
years, the FreeBSD Project not only developed a whole operating
system, but also achieved technical excellence.

I see that move as an immense waste of money and time on the part of
M$. Moreover, I am not quite sure Windows2000 will be able to handle
**that** load; only time will tell.

What strikes me most is the **enormous** deployment of resources aimed
at producing a *monster* that is no match to Unices; the mountain bore
a little mouse...

The statement, made in 1998 by certain well-known authors, that NT was
a modern [sic] OS, designed and implemented in a completely different
way from Unix [sic], sounds humo(u)rous today, in the light of what
has been said in the "Unix 2000..." thread :-)





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