From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 9 06:18:12 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7271065672 for ; Sun, 9 May 2010 06:18:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f181.google.com (mail-yw0-f181.google.com [209.85.211.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85518FC15 for ; Sun, 9 May 2010 06:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh11 with SMTP id 11so1451248ywh.7 for ; Sat, 08 May 2010 23:18:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eLtU1Tg/9cuSgNAwFGjjtUeQ9FxmWN0RwNn6nSZKpjo=; b=ZkpMCZtXtfaZRa/AHD/RxuU5c/A/sRp13NfwdHk5TMmxgy3fWJFQjAH+vuCU8lQk2b Y4d82+iwqKJ8zGOPxwXn7PFbCZ8FIejoccpR4durBIAZfYBCYAR8Ko5A+lUCfIh788qY 8r+4UKz8JIvx8+yLz0VWBliRyxtKEyPXDLweI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Gb2kh48s/1CaIK4L+ZQPS/wBOyIgbbtmV4kevidCR+uOcHiDADf6ZaDC6xGjRj/0rT RwImITsBDkm6J9wCg1fyx7bSyx/H+bUXmE7IJVJRdcwq0/dk//nk4jago1EM68H3k1Bz nFGkZAzCBe/NbY+PqKsYzHVX+cIMHmbfPlo9Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.60.17 with SMTP id n17mr1547661ibh.24.1273385890958; Sat, 08 May 2010 23:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.119.97 with HTTP; Sat, 8 May 2010 23:18:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 02:18:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: Ansar Mohammed To: Adam Vande More , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: File system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 May 2010 06:18:12 -0000 You know what, dont worry about it. Thanks for the help all! You have been very helpful. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > >> Hello Bobby, >> >> The VM is in my lab environemnt. I have many flavours of Windows, Linux >> and >> FreeBSD. FreeBSD is my firewall running PF. >> > > >> >> I have rebooted my entire environment hundreds of times, and non of my >> Windows or Linux VMs will complain or boot into a repair/single user mode. >> >> The background to this problem is because the FreeBSD root filesystem >> (UFS) >> is not journaled and for some reason I cannot set my root partition to be >> UFS+SoftUpdates. >> > > Well I'd say that's clearly not the problem since so many of us don't have > your issues. SU is disabled on / for a reason. I highly doubt you actually > want to enable this, but you can if you adjust the FS when it isn't mounted > eg boot from fixit cd. > >> >> At any rate, we are in the year 2010, most modern operating systems and >> databases and able to survive an unclean shutdown without booting into >> single user mode and file system/data corruption. >> > > FreeBSD has defaulted to background checking on SU FS's for the better part > of 10 years. What version are you running? What data corruption did you > have and what does databases have to do with it? Also DB's that are > unexpectly killed can have consistency problems regardless of what FS it > writes to and OS happens to be running it. > > >> >> I love FreeBSD, and have been a user since 2.x >> > > User as in you saw it running a couple times? > > So on to your actual issue instead of all the bs, what does your > /etc/rc.conf say? Specifically, what is the boot failing on? > > If you really want the disk/partition/slice journaled, you can do so with > gjournal or ZFS offers an even better copy-on-write system. If the install > is only running a fw, the zfs is probably overkill though. > > > > > -- > Adam Vande More >