Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:42:07 -0700 From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GPL *again* (was: New CODA release) Message-ID: <4.1.19990208123527.04580960@mail.lariat.org> In-Reply-To: <199902081927.LAA20925@kithrup.com> References: <4.1.19990208095441.00c43100.kithrup.freebsd.chat@mail.lariat.org> <xzpww1tlyt5.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
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At 11:27 AM 2/8/99 -0800, Sean Eric Fagan wrote: >And stop your whining. Sean, you seem to have a habit of claiming that anyone who disagrees with oyou is "whining." This adds nothing but rancor to the discussion. Why must you do it? >Net/1 would not have come about had the GPL not already made some inroads. > >386BSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and FreeBSD would not have come about had gcc not >existed. Why not? There are other publicly available compilers, such as TenDRA. What's more, it would (at least at that time) have been possible to adopt an inexpensive commercial compiler before GCC drove all of them from the market. >The X Windowing System would not have been pushed to have been freely >available outside of the commercial group had RMS not had such a presence and >influence at MIT. There were plenty of other, more sensible advocates of this than RMS. And, frankly, they prevailed, as X is not under the GPL. >Without Linux, there would be no commercial interest in supporting any >freely-distributable OS, save of the sorts Walnut Creek has (CD-ROM sales). This support is misguided. By supporting the GPL, these companies will commit suicide themselves. >And then I see you whiners supporting the hypocrisy that is the "Mozilla Pubilc >License." Again, the unnecessary ad hominem attack -- and the accusation of "whining" when someone disagrees with you. You're also very much off base, as I have never advocated the MPL. >Oh, and I suggest all of you whiners -- Brett the Idiot in particular -- Calling me an "idiot" really helps to prove your point. I'm convinced. ;-) >take a look at BSDi's commercial success vs. Caldera's or Red Hat's commercial >success. BSDi took the so-called "free" software, and made it proprietary, >and is languishing. And yet Caldera and Red Hat, which are using the >apparantly anti-commercial GPL'd code, and are flourishing. That's because they're disk foundries and little else. BSDi actually COULD be doing much better, since they offer unique value added. However, their marketing is not good. --Brett > >Idiots. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message "Rules? This is the Internet." -- Dan Gillmor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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