From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 26 16:49:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405AB106564A for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:49:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay0.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [82.138.248.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36FF8FC15 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.123] (94-30-105-106.xdsl.murphx.net [94.30.105.106]) by relay0.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E8957003; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:49:23 +0000 (GMT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Mark Blackman In-Reply-To: <201201260937.47448.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:49:22 +0000 Message-Id: <6D5F6ECE-5966-4849-AFDC-7F385E2CE906@exonetric.com> References: <201201260937.47448.jhb@freebsd.org> To: John Baldwin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd , Mark Saad Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:49:25 -0000 On 26 Jan 2012, at 14:37, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:33:40 pm Adrian Chadd wrote: >> On 19 January 2012 09:47, Mark Saad wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> What could I do to help make 7.5-RELEASE a reality ? >>>=20 >>=20 >> Put your hand up and volunteer to run the 7.5-RELEASE release cycle. >=20 > That's not actually true or really fair. There has to be some buy-in = from the=20 > project to do an official release; it is not something that a single = person > can do off in a corner and then have the Project bless the bits as an = official=20 > release. And raises the interesting question for an outsider of=20 a) who is "the project" in this case and b) what does it take for a release to be a release? Wasn't there a freebsd-releng (or similar) mailing list ages ago? I didn't spot an active one at http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/ - Mark=