From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 4 16:18:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B95106566B for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephane.lapie@darkbsd.org) Received: from quasar.darkbsd.org (shinigami.darkbsd.org [82.227.96.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2284F8FC08 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from quasar.darkbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quasar.darkbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1D881DB; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:18:20 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=darkbsd.org; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; s=selector1; bh=d6Syh4QTZAdtT47bEDLgQS9XP5o=; b=W s2paJd4M7hU2vNPsCFn3yCkdEkJc9mHcQbWHaIdL/IR2h8zs5g4J7nYs74OfeHD7 Qiy7LYFZAWYmTo/crdqvyq99QYFjBdGY0sEkJ9SCvI/83/S2GLJHSzB108YGHAv8 1BnJkETXn9rXvdy1bjH8sUAiSoJwAPNmPZ44f1DZDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=darkbsd.org; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type; q=dns; s=selector1; b=K3IX8qisVpiapa0dQJq8dPsOnLe /xelXt3HzhPyunKTPLT8rxkwxPrb6vPa3p2anMDL16wFFCh9VAqZxRlwG+ZJ8lD5 ztE+eh4CKlVsU2dwCYRZL1+v+8NYqODytuQjMlBDIYyZILFVjUX7jfYEGC2gXaZK BRn0vFxBqWcXbzuI= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=darkbsd.org; h= content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:subject :mime-version:user-agent:from:from:date:date:message-id:received :received; s=selector1; t=1333556299; bh=GRahIGMKgSr9FYdtCNhnBTh gIaLia+i2rxXVQyxOEf4=; b=iUYOhaBZcZPmi41szTFb6OfGmnIywZWQyGUEyIm +nDjOoGgFkKvc0BodaabfhIi5guOQnJxn5AGKRo8XWvtwZZb0MYBz5amt2FX3+ow xacdAkZqc/W7hV5B2pEavqSaPFi9n1B7QiHoV4jlaWEQnMgfzHWrenU/VOx+T9XZ KOvU= Received: from quasar.darkbsd.org ([127.0.0.1]) by quasar.darkbsd.org (quasar.darkbsd.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id y3nzmac4XFQO; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:18:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.3.42] (archer.yomi.darkbsd.org [192.168.3.42]) (Authenticated sender: darksoul) by quasar.darkbsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C28F581D3; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:18:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4F7C7443.9090304@darkbsd.org> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 01:18:11 +0900 From: Stephane LAPIE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120313 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Moritz Wilhelmy References: <20120404135238.GF18733@emile.cs.uni-saarland.de> <4F7C59D8.8080406@darkbsd.org> <20120404154639.GG18733@emile.cs.uni-saarland.de> In-Reply-To: <20120404154639.GG18733@emile.cs.uni-saarland.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig749AE8A9A9987AE80F1CDA61" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Do you recommend Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 as PCI-X SATA controller? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 16:18:22 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig749AE8A9A9987AE80F1CDA61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right now I'm using this controller : mpt0@pci0:6:1:0: class=3D0x010000 card=3D0x10aa1734 chip=3D0x00541000 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'LSI Logic / Symbios Logic' device =3D 'SAS1068 PCI-X Fusion-MPT SAS' class =3D mass storage subclass =3D SCSI mpt1@pci0:6:7:0: class=3D0x010000 card=3D0x10aa1734 chip=3D0x00541000 rev=3D0x01 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'LSI Logic / Symbios Logic' device =3D 'SAS1068 PCI-X Fusion-MPT SAS' class =3D mass storage subclass =3D SCSI http://www.lsi.com/products/storagecomponents/Pages/LSISAS1068.aspx The only problem is, that card is an OEM version that was a bit tricky to find. I got it off an auction site in Japan, but I guess it covers pretty much what you want, in that it will advertise disks as physical volumes by default. My only complaint on FreeBSD 9.X so far is that, it has trouble doing SMART probes on the disks using passthrough :) Performance is top notch, even though I had to tweak my /boot/loader.conf= to have a long SCSI timeout for disk detection (as you can imagine, 15 disks will take a LONG time to detect.) : kern.cam.scsi_delay=3D15000 Otherwise you could pretty much shoot for this one if PCI-X is not a requirement : mfi0@pci0:2:0:0: class=3D0x010400 card=3D0x92401000 chip=3D0x00731000 rev=3D0x02 hdr=3D0x00 vendor =3D 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)' class =3D mass storage subclass =3D RAID The only real beef with this one is driver support, as I had to make it work by using LSI's driver, (which will require some simple patching if you plan on using it on 9.X) and it won't handle more than one card at once as it stands. I'm not quite aware of support status for this baby in 9.0 or 10.0. Cheers, On 04/05/2012 12:46 AM, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 23:25:28 +0900, DarkSoul wrote: >> I used this card for my personal ZFS NAS (2 cards, 15 disks + 1 SSD). >> >> http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm >> >> Frankly speaking, this card will work 99% of the time. But it has a fe= w >> quirks : >> - Sometimes, I've had a port drop because maybe of a broken/dying disk= =2E >> The port would NOT recover unless I cold rebooted the server. >> And a port not recovering means, even the BIOS option ROM programmin= g >> won't find it. >> Quite annoying as one could guess. >> - I could panic a system by removing a drive (back in the 8.1-RELEASE >> days) because of thread locking/sleeping issues. >> - I don't know what is to blame for that but : >> - I had more than once odd queue issues and disks flapping. Not reall= y >> a problem with ZFS but VERY irritating nonetheless. >> - I even had a whole controller drop on me once. Nothing a reboot/zpo= ol >> scrub couldn't fix (with NO corruption to boot!) but still... >> - It really, REALLY doesn't play nice with other cards. I tried >> migrating progressively to mpt(4) cards, with a one by one switch, onl= y >> to experience stray NMIs and pretty ugly kernel panics. It turned out >> having a "pure" system with two f the same kind (mind, I was not pairi= ng >> PCI-X and PCIe, this was in every case pure PCI-X setups) did wonders >> for stability. >> >> It's probably fairly decent for most home purposes (my main use), >> but I'd advise against it in any serious environment. > Can you (or someone else for that matter) recommend any decent PCI-X > controller for use in "serious environments", preferably with more than= > 4 Ports and in the same price category? :-) > The setup is rather serious, but then again, I don't expect having to > replace disks all the time (so if there isn't anything else that would > cost about the same, I might just go with this one)... It affects about= > 30 users. I heard Silicon Image cards are supposed to be good? > > I don't need or want a hardware RAID-controller, because I'd prefer > using software RAID (and don't want to waste the extra money). > > > Best regards, > > Moritz --=20 Stephane LAPIE, EPITA SRS, Promo 2005 "Even when they have digital readouts, I can't understand them." --MegaTokyo --------------enig749AE8A9A9987AE80F1CDA61 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk98dEMACgkQ24Ql8u6TF2P75ACgsCjOXquiDIaheScUlwMIEw3H l3gAoJXkkG8wHXb+mM8secuVNGxTiDow =ctNp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig749AE8A9A9987AE80F1CDA61--