From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 18 08:22:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6821065673; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E2E8FC19; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36722049; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:22:31 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Andrey Chernov References: <4855EDFE.3010708@FreeBSD.org> <86bq211rqw.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080617002224.GA16122@nagual.pp.ru> <20080617002808.GB16122@nagual.pp.ru> <20080617004647.GA16546@nagual.pp.ru> <48576610.9080808@FreeBSD.org> <48577510.4020007@aueb.gr> <48577BD2.4070205@bluemedia.pl> <20080617102900.GA46479@nagual.pp.ru> <485798C4.2050605@FreeBSD.org> <20080618055851.GA85018@nagual.pp.ru> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:22:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20080618055851.GA85018@nagual.pp.ru> (Andrey Chernov's message of "Wed\, 18 Jun 2008 09\:58\:51 +0400") Message-ID: <86zlpjduew.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:29:51 +0000 Cc: Doug Barton , current@FreeBSD.org, Konrad Jankowski , Diomidis Spinellis , hackers@FreeBSD.org, Gabor Kovesdan , Max Khon , "Sean C. Farley" , K?vesd?n G?bor Subject: Re: CFT: BSD-licensed grep [Fwd: cvs commit: ports/textproc/bsdgrep Makefile distinfo] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:22:35 -0000 Andrey Chernov writes: > "BSD sort" as an idea will be a good project indeed, but "BSD sort"=20 > implementation we currently have at hand is totally misleading and should= =20 > be rewritten from the scratch, I realize it when long time ago I try to=20 > localize it for single byte locales. I think part of the problem is that there aren't enough people who truly understand localization. I think I understand most of it, but I'm pretty sure I *don't* understand how collation works, or is supposed to work. Amongst other things, I don't understand how (or whether) it handles cases like "aa" and "=C3=A5", which are considered the same letter = in Norwegian. Perhaps you could create a Localization page on wiki.freebsd.org which addresses these issues, or at least points to relevant resources? DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no