Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 19:56:27 -0500 From: Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org> To: Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com> Cc: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: nightly snapshot for CURRENT ? Message-ID: <CACNAnaFarTm=LiKoCM8C57xhv0rad1w_iojVSqMe9NmqROUMLg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAGLDxTXf3yW-Cg_27yPYjuT1cCZ96ripgq_UxoZys6saKkeHiw@mail.gmail.com> References: <20200609214756.13e9cbbc2de12bbb78839875@bidouilliste.com> <CAGLDxTXf3yW-Cg_27yPYjuT1cCZ96ripgq_UxoZys6saKkeHiw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 7:17 PM Clay Daniels <clay.daniels.jr@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 2:48 PM Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > > I've just hit again something that I've hit (and probably others too) > > often. > > If a change in base break some ports and it's snapshoted in the txz > > available at download.freebsd.org, you need to wait a week for the next > > tarball to be available. > > Since poudriere uses the tarball when you setup a jail it means that > > the only solution you have is to recreate your jail by building it, and > > since building world nowdays is very expensive that delay your work too > > much. > > Would it be possible to generate the tarballs every day instead of > > every week ? At least for tier-1 arches. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > At first I thought you were referring to the weekly snapshots packaged as > install images: > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/13.0/ > > But I think you are talking about the snapshots of each part, like base, > kernel, ports. src, etc to use as a roll your own install like: > https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/arm64/13.0-CURRENT/ > Yes, these are the parts he's talking about. My initial impression is that it'd be nice if we could (somehow) leverage Jenkins artifacts [0] to get even more frequent updates if we really needed to without significantly impacting re@ -- that's a little more difficult, though, because build breakage makes it hard to predict what the latest snapshot you can actually grab is, if any. Perhaps a script that creates a symlink to the 'last known functional across the board' revision periodically... [0] http://artifacts.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/head/r361934/amd64/amd64/ > From my selfish perspective as a weekly installer of the regular Thursday > image or iso of 13.0 Current, I would hate to lose the pre-rolled > installer, and I think there are probably others like me. As long as you > keep the weekly install snapshots, it will not affect folks like me. I must > say that what you want to do is how NetBSD does their daily cent > snapshots, and they do not even offer pre-rolled install images. > > But you are a real developer and I'm just a retired guy playing with his > hobby, so go ahead and do what you think is best for you. > This was brought up in a public forum, you should probably feel free to make non-obstructive comments like this to make sure a fairly common need is represented. The (light-hearted?) self-deprecation near the end of this makes me a bit uneasy- I certainly hope you didn't feel like it was mandatory to acknowledge that he's a developer and you're a hobbyist, because there's most assuredly more hobbyists (such as myself) lurking with similar needs/desires. =-) Thanks, Kyle Evans
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