From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 9 3:14:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459BD37B416 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 03:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fA9BE7T00530; Fri, 9 Nov 2001 03:14:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Meyer" Cc: Subject: RE: Lockdown of FreeBSD machine directly on Net Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 03:14:07 -0800 Message-ID: <003f01c1690f$a5e41a20$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <15339.46837.837301.883814@guru.mired.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Meyer [mailto:mwm@mired.org] >Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 2:59 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Lockdown of FreeBSD machine directly on Net > > >Ted Mittelstaedt types: >> What always amazes me is the number of people in our town that are still >> staggering along with these small ISP's that have been losing money for >> years. Don't their S.O.'s get tired of supporting them?! > >Hey - that looks like a *question*! So I'll answer it. > >There are two industries that call their customers "users". Small >operators in both business buy the product in bulk for their own use, >then resell the excess to other users. Oh, we have a number of _those_ kinds of ISP's too - but those aren't the ones losing money that I wonder about. Those ones are generally doing OK. The ones I'm talking about are the people that have from 200-400 dialup users, actual offices (generally located in oldtown next to the adult bookstores, low-rent hotels, and such) and no network lines or modem banks of their own - they buy wholesale dialup ports and resell them somehow, authentication/billing/virtual webserving are often done on a single server at a colocate shelf at a more prosperous ISP. I've talked with a few of these folks and they are forever in danger of being cut off for non-payment of their bills. Yearly salaries for the one knowledgeable network admin holding the bandaid and ductape servers together are in the 20-30K range. RAID is nonexistent, IDE drives abound, downtime is frequent. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message