From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 18:17:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4B7F92; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (mx0.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1358FC0A; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id q9QIHNif039515; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:17:23 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9QIHBP0050010; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:17:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9QIHBDV050009; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:17:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:17:11 +0300 From: Konstantin Belousov To: "Simon J. Gerraty" Subject: Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program Message-ID: <20121026181711.GU35915@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <3F52B7C9-A7B7-4E0E-87D0-1E67FE5D0BA7@xcllnt.net> <20121025225353.86DA658094@chaos.jnpr.net> <20121026050130.GL35915@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20121026062356.3143A58094@chaos.jnpr.net> <37989A40-4DBD-48C8-BD65-16C7C41454B6@bsdimp.com> <20121026172106.BA86458094@chaos.jnpr.net> <21B6834A-C986-4103-B395-D1F23FB23380@bsdimp.com> <20121026181253.C6EA958094@chaos.jnpr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vNKtQyIwo9cfIjjL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121026181253.C6EA958094@chaos.jnpr.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.2 at skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:17:17 -0000 --vNKtQyIwo9cfIjjL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:12:53AM -0700, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: >=20 > On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:41:46 -0600, Warner Losh writes: > >It's called a transition period for a reason. The historical use has =3D > >permeated itself into many places, not all of which are obvious. >=20 > It would seem that leaving FreeBSD make as make, for the transition > period and installing bmake as bmake, would cause the least disruption > to everyone. This was the original proposal presented at BSDCan in 2011. >=20 > FreeBSD make already grok's the :tl and :tu modifiers, > so it is quite simple for the two to coexist for some period. >=20 > The only reason we are talking about having to frob ports etc now,=20 > is a new requirement introduced this year (by yourself I think) > that bmake replace make in base rather than allow coexistence. >=20 > If we are all happy to go back to the original plan, we can ease the > concerns of the folk you speak of? >=20 > The only downside is we wait a few more years for major build improvments. Can system build, initiated by make, call bmake immediately ? I suppose it could be fine even to error out if make is typed instead of bmake for src/. --vNKtQyIwo9cfIjjL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlCK06YACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4jeBQCg0u3d/BnFMYOp0h58QW4Mc+3h vbgAnA4HUmrbLKg7mOVSwthXSIHtq2oe =2edq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vNKtQyIwo9cfIjjL--