From nobody Wed Jan 29 03:36:43 2025 X-Original-To: dev-commits-src-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YjSWY39v2z5lxVT for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2025 03:36:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-pj1-x1034.google.com (mail-pj1-x1034.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1034]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YjSWX6D6rz4485 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2025 03:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-pj1-x1034.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2ef714374c0so474817a91.0 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2025 19:36:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1738121815; x=1738726615; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=bHPp6FI5qEpIE9vSkx6YsYWMJfixiwgQhbd0X3ZRpXE=; b=KzZPRY4CbvggitntEUp+6YL5kMD7gYuxKM54IVhUkTy6yOD1eoPQlDKTdUCHhBLsNu DQidpFuRu8iwpDDsA+8DHClW6m6iFsbDG6hDQFS0g2ZFpQMXYAs6sixhvZ3nMZSMAM9u tId83mXEn4Xzowco3W6FoMsQr3e56SBEfcZan2tup1C9OL7vfnDrLGXbdGjce8OEdwO6 1ZhS0reXyfpqDrCW+v1s9h92ZCIrFWCIAjP6Xjh56bMuc43SuzAxbc6gPnonS4byHBf8 mHqlcqtmt0zs3wChdIr7GQf7TqHt81ElZje4ulz4pc/DNpKUfXA3BzeVt6acQSEzxi8U gZFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1738121815; x=1738726615; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=bHPp6FI5qEpIE9vSkx6YsYWMJfixiwgQhbd0X3ZRpXE=; b=kukom776r4Y57v90rN0sr7U/mfuaivcJksRvVp8TFUusBJ3rQC8HFzTx6YTVXE/9g8 r8KNjz3LtFfiCypUVcobeRidpLgJTMtu8ySlL+7AJtbfHD+iCe5jervISO3Cgh8yA42k wOPgJrC0p2kHdxcL/cNRUuq6Xpb5Ipimoz7yMRAutIMGmnbBZpv5Mpen42Wy7V6+l1Gr YTqOfgyRYdmoVZFUrAzhKeQn//4UbAUdZsMH37mVfph33Ho6WwHz1yBu5seeTjOXZ9Zg MKVcRLEcnaNxqCXliCUYs//8JThPv5SYDlrbwKELWXpXrXMuOesXN4q98PP96ASTaVuB 7opw== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXHOFwHxInhoUypdVq8Suhz3LRMi+puCZ5o+5ireh2InoiM6r3Xe9mo4gVDnwo4T0itoK6lh4pDaigwatKsRcmYsGFWaQ==@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzYbCRsmqqzc8sMEuN2uusobEyJtXYV9n9DQjnQz3wBsCw8ME13 BlTqNtqx3tglaQq3BfaPboXXiuiiSWdRahMtoF9K67N0ddOf94+cBPxr3YR+7a+LoZ2kH/zxpwD PslZpNgQEGC/N0D/RGmkp2G42Ewbpz9hQTfyDYL5P1Sjhfukac6o= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctyIGwbio4ae0Kiawjj6osiBSAmRhaXiwKQSYWcvMj2V0al93koFISmo0qpnXK sPdgWywHDHsvSwhFpjv3URhX8Mpzy4SSXRJseaxqSOdhoKxDbhDkMpweHApB3g/d/tkdWqj3V0y UMLJzK9y81fMg30+utDU51SVGerM4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGb/yQMlUuY492RSiFt1wB1TrPh3p7aV3L6ike2Cad17JAxtI/+jhSS4j55KxC7luUpwscYP3DfXSJrrBRJnRA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:524b:b0:2f2:a974:1e45 with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-2f83a122cc4mr2562951a91.16.1738121815288; Tue, 28 Jan 2025 19:36:55 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Commit messages for the main branch of the src repository List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-src-main List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-src-main@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202501231812.50NICZuA014875@gitrepo.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2025 20:36:43 -0700 X-Gm-Features: AWEUYZmwePtQXXNpQRxczjK9301gh283um9u0u9FEPhxVDz_xu23tY6DYQg5tF0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git: cda74c35cb37 - main - firewire: Add deprecation notice To: Alexey Dokuchaev Cc: Ed Maste , src-committers , "" , "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000608d28062cd005ce" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YjSWX6D6rz4485 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] --000000000000608d28062cd005ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 8:25=E2=80=AFPM Alexey Dokuchaev = wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 06:12:35PM +0000, Ed Maste wrote: > > commit cda74c35cb37aa8ecb536aae8d93451eafec15df > > > > firewire: Add deprecation notice > > > > This was originally discussed as part of FreeBSD 15 planning, but did > > not happen in time. Add the deprecation notice now, with an > expectation > > that it will be removed before FreeBSD 16. > > Oh, but why? I use it with one of my external HDD boxen and it works fin= e. > It's Giant locked and we're hoping to clean up the giant havks in CAM. Many have been, so Giant locked sims may or may not work under load. While we rarely see 1394 ports these days on the new computers, adapters > are inexpensive and easily available on the market. There are people wit= h > various camcorders which support video capture over 1934 and I remember > debugging over it was fast and easy to set up with the dcons(4) driver. > > So, might be reconsider this? If there are some outstanding issues with > it like Giant usage, I'll try to come up with some patches (allow for som= e > time as I'm not a seasoned kernel hacker). Thanks, > It'd Giant related. Good luck. Warner ./danfe > --000000000000608d28062cd005ce Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Jan 28, 2025, 8:25=E2=80= =AFPM Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freeb= sd.org> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2= 3, 2025 at 06:12:35PM +0000, Ed Maste wrote:
> commit cda74c35cb37aa8ecb536aae8d93451eafec15df
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0firewire: Add deprecation notice
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0This was originally discussed as part of FreeBSD 15 planni= ng, but did
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0not happen in time.=C2=A0 Add the deprecation notice now, = with an expectation
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0that it will be removed before FreeBSD 16.

Oh, but why?=C2=A0 I use it with one of my external HDD boxen and it works = fine.

It's Giant locked and we're hoping to clean up the giant havks= in CAM. Many have been, so Giant locked sims may or may not work under loa= d.

While we rarely see 1394 ports these days on the new computers, adapters are inexpensive and easily available on the market.=C2=A0 There are people = with
various camcorders which support video capture over 1934 and I remember
debugging over it was fast and easy to set up with the dcons(4) driver.

So, might be reconsider this?=C2=A0 =C2=A0If there are some outstanding iss= ues with
it like Giant usage, I'll try to come up with some patches (allow for s= ome
time as I'm not a seasoned kernel hacker).=C2=A0 Thanks,

It'd Giant = related. Good luck.

Warn= er

./danfe
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