From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 22 03:37:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877D75C7 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 03:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ABB9201E for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 03:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r6M3b54V042682 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 21:37:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id r6M3b5bw042679 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2013 21:37:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 21:37:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FDP Primer: emacs and vim Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 21 Jul 2013 21:37:05 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 03:37:12 -0000 Multiple people have said the emacs configuration shown in the FDP Primer is outdated. Of particular interest is the section at the end of the emacs chapter: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/psgml-mode.html There is also a vim configuration shown in the Writing Style chapter on indentation, currently 12.3.3: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/writing-style-guide.html That also looks outdated (sgml rather than xml). The proposal is two parts: First, remove the "Using sgml-mode with Emacs" chapter altogether. Teaching users to use an editor is out of scope of the FDP Primer. (And reputed to be outdated, but so far emacs users have not volunteered to update it.) This may have been a big deal back when it was added, but there are multiple XML-capable editors now, and their documentation will be more helpful to the user than a rarely-updated section in the FDP Primer. Second, move the small configuration file entries for both editors into a new "Editor Configuration" appendix. This will be easier for users to find and easier to keep updated. So: emacs users, please provide a modern configuration for emacs. vim users, provide an updated configuration for vim. Thanks!