From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 25 8:21:27 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A8737B404 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484CD43F85 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:21:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fclift@verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91423BF427 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:21:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h2PGLKp84355 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:21:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:23:36 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Clift X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Don't upgrade your Alphas! In-Reply-To: <16000.24970.493746.357815@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20030325092026.X54897-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > David O'Brien writes: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 01:37:50PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > So, I think that making it the default is probably the best. As long > > > as somebody can turn it off with -mnoieee or something. > > > > Unfortnately, that is hard to do (turning it off). :-( > > Do I commit my patches if it means one cannot turn it off? So how are you achieving this? Are you changing makefiles in the buildsystem? How about tweaking the compiler so that the default semantics are reversed and then change the flag -mieeee (or whatever it was -- can't remember) to just be -noieee as suggested? By just changing the compiler, we dont have to touch the rest of the system, and people can still get the desired behavior fairly easily... I dont know what changes we make already but I understand that there is some customization to the compiler that is imported into the system. So, what is one more change? Fred -- Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message