From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 11 14:42:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7787D1065674 for ; Mon, 11 May 2009 14:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-105.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-105.bluehost.com [69.89.18.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49BC48FC16 for ; Mon, 11 May 2009 14:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 21026 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 2009 14:42:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 May 2009 14:42:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=U5UcjmEkj4aGvdY70XsPgQ7GI2LBdXE9yvB7QizoraAg2s/8P0H64X7niAHZlIcZHgrZyGrG3wH+gCyyhhnQZ3Bq8PuIN6PfnbC5WSypa2lz4TyIP8c3fDlriTYfYPvP; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1M3Whw-0000O5-A7 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 11 May 2009 08:42:20 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 11 May 2009 08:37:58 -0600 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:37:58 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: "questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20090511143758.GB11330@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: "questions@freebsd.org" References: <4A03BE9F.5050906@ibctech.ca> <20090508180532.GA69045@kokopelli.hydra> <4A058988.8080808@ibctech.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A058988.8080808@ibctech.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Cc: Subject: Re: Licensing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:42:21 -0000 --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 09:47:52AM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: >=20 > One thing that did not cross my mind prior was regarding the comments > Chad made, use in media other than within the programming scope itself. I think that's an important consideration that most programmers overlook. One of the greatest benefits of open source software is the availability of the code for viewing by people who want to *learn*. To use licenses that make it difficult to include code in a single instructional work distributed under the terms of a single license seems extremely short-sighted to me. Even if you don't think your code will ever be used in such a way, code that *incorporates* yours may some day be suitable for such a purpose, and it would be nice if the license you choose lends itself to such use in the future. >=20 > FYI, almost all of my apps are for systems/network management and > automation. I've written an application that bridges our wireless > hotspots to our payment bank site (the bank supplied me a Perl module), > through to radius, and with an expiry method to automatically remove the > users so that the entire process is hands off. The bank's Perl module may well impose constraints on how you can license your code, in addition to any restrictions that may exist as a result of employment agreements and contracts, at least if the module ends up being part of, or a source of necessary functionality for, your code. >=20 > Most of my code would have to be changed to make it generic and not so > site specific before being put out there. Being that I'm not really a > programmer, having my code out there for peer review would make it much, > much better if it was useful. (I'd probably be on the receiving end of > finger pointing and laughing, but that's ok ;) That's a great attitude. I wish you the best of luck in coming to an equitable and satisfying decision about licensing, and in future coding efforts. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Mike Maples, as quoted by James Gleick: "My job is to get a fair share of the software applications market, and to me that's 100 percent." --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkoIOEYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKU7HQCfdEh2uSFlvWq9mO2Flv1JqpJ9 K48An2LzQJ++Xw50sfNQz5j2TBzJNM4B =89LS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI--