From owner-freebsd-chat Fri May 4 7:20:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15DC337B422 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA82111; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 07:20:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: jessemonroy@email.com Cc: gsutter@zer0.org, jkh@osd.bsdi.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [jkh@osd.bsdi.com: ANNOUNCE: Status update on ftp.freebsd.org A KA ftp.freesoftware.com] In-Reply-To: <200105031954.MAA13048@dnull.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 3 May 2001 jessem@livecam.com wrote: > On 3 May, Gregory Sutter wrote: > > On 2001-05-03 12:38 -0700, jessem@livecam.com wrote: > >> > >> 2) Speculation exists that FreeBSD is only making release to > >> generate cash, not because any real changes apply to the software. > > > > I can't imagine the state of mental derangement that it would > > take for you to post this, let alone to actually believe it. > > > Look, I don't make this shit up. So, you guys get real or > cut the shit. Cause I've got a company to run and I really > don't have time for this crap. > > If you have a comment with some serious material, then make it. > But please stop the rhetoric about mental states, I'm really > not inclined to follow this track. At a high level, one can simply look at the release notes to determine what's changed. At a lower level, take a look at the cvs logs. Let me give your a for instance as to why your comment above is invalid. Not so long ago, my work place started purchasing dell poweredge 4400 servers to replace older servers. All of these systems came with what dell called the Perc 3/Di raid controller (which is rebranded, but that's another story). After doing some investigation at the time I found out that those raid controllers were not supported by FreeBSD. So NT went on them and life went on. More time went by and a I notice that Mike Smith gets support into -current for these raid controllers. My joy was great. More time goes on and I discover that these drivers have been MFC'd and will be in the new 4.3-RELEASE of FreeBSD. My joy was full. In my own little world at work, this alone would have been enough to make a release, if it was up to me. 4.2-R didn't contain these drivers, 4.3-R did. That's a big new feature in my book. My $0.02 in refuting your claim. -Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message