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Date:      Fri, 23 Aug 2002 23:07:48 -0700
From:      "frank amo" <lxfrank90@hotmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   HELP WITH CUSTOM KERNEL
Message-ID:  <F59PDVXLuSbh29cM3or0001d0a3@hotmail.com>

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Hello
Before I get started I want to let you guys or gals know that I am avoiding 
puncutating this message because when I punctuate my emails have been 
returned from many UNIX sites including this one

I will attempt to make my messages as clear as possible and will jump down 
one line for each sentence and a double line for each topic changing 
paragraph

In addition to this poorly written email I prefer for each issue to be 
treated individually if that is more convenient for you

I dont expect and am not rushing anyone to answer every problem immediately 
I expect every problem to be concentrated one at a time

I am emailing you guys for help because I have read some content prefer to 
do things more hands on Thats how I understand things

  Reading heavy documentation for an hour becomes a week hopping from link 
to link until I forget what the original reason was that I was looking for 
help

  It would help me to be pointed to the right direction when a straight 
forward answer may be difficult to at the moment  For example if you know a 
site that you know has existing drivers would really  help me alot and I 
would appreciate it

I hope you dont get too confused because I really need your aiding 
assistance And again I know I dont have easy questions so dont feel rushed 
to answer everything right away  I only wrote alot because I may forget what 
questions I had later on  So you can treat each topic as a separate email 
from different people  Thanks
Now Im done with this with this warning

TOPIC ONE
PARAGRAPH ONE
I am considering upgrading to freebsd 4dot6dot2 because my 4dot4 and 4dot5 
are giving me a series of issues achieving my goals
Before I tell you my actual problems I will introduce my goals
GOAL ONE
  To compile a kernel that will support limited hardware on my
  computer

GOAL TWO
  Upon successful compilation of this kernel  I would like to  eliminate as 
many demons as possible and leave certain sockets open
to create my own network services later on as I progress in what Im trying 
to accomplish

GOAL THREE
   I would like to run an XServer with only one window manager that will 
allow me to conentrate my resources on both compilation and heavy image 
rendering and sound support

SUMMARY

These three goals are what I feel I need to create an multimedia workstation 
to provide me an environment that I can develop code and render images for 
mainly game development and testing for unix slash linux network based games


TOPIC ONE
PARAGRAPH TWO
MY HARDWARE SETUP

CPU is an AMD Athlon 800mhz

MotherBoard is an Epox via chipset

MEMORY is 768mhz running at 100mhz bus speed

VIDEO is an ATI Radeon 7500 with 64mb of ddr memory

Sound is built in but the sound


I am not really concerned in a kernel to specifically support my sound 
device  I may get a soundblaster or something later depending on how the 
sound works for me

ISSUE ONE
My main concerns are using the drivers that I found on your website and 
getting them to compile correctly into my kernel

I have downloaded the ati radeon drivers from a link through your site the 
extenstion looks funny and I cant seem to relate them with freebsd and ati 
radeon support

My only guess is either figure out how to use or compile those files or find 
something more convinient like a script I found for linux radeon support  I 
dont mind untarring and then running make to compile them but they dont even 
look like they have those options

Once I figure that out I am sort of confortable to go to my source directory 
and create my custom kernel and compile it

I just need to know how to work those radoen files so that they give me 
either a dot o or a dot so extention and them include them in a directory 
for the kernel to find them during recompilation

ISSUE TWO

In spite of that problem I would like to add the new Xfree86 4dot2dot0 which 
I did but startx fails obviously because of the problem upstairs so I am 
patient with that until I have figured out the ATI Radeon driver issue   I 
may come back for help on that later

What I am really curious about is this with the Xfree86config script
QUESTION
Will my ati radeon 7500 show up in the video card database after I have 
compiled the driver
END OF QUESTION

ISSUE THREE
This is completely unrelated  At least I think  I am getting ugly and 
inhuman error messages such as listed below

ERROR MESSAGES

microfuntion
These are actual functions that make me lose control of the keyboard

errors to forward slash dev forward slash console
I get these permission denied messages to this directory every time I leave 
the console idle after I log in as root
I have to control c out of them or hit enter to get back to the prompt

getty error messages
Happen very much along with the dev console messages they also happen when I 
leave the keyboard idle  I have to get back to the prompt the same way I 
described above

healthd minus 14 point some number
I get healthd like the messages above but on top of that I get negative 
numbers that rapidly change   They are floating point numbers they always 
have decimals
Its like reading an oscilliscope

Now I also have similar issues on my other freebsd machine  That machine 
works fine though and those automatic messages appear but I dont lose 
control of the terminal so they dont bother me there

QUESTIONS
Are these problems related to my AMD Athlon running at 800mhz  Or is it 
possible that there may be a mismatch in the bios bus speed etc
Or is it that using a newer freebsd kernel may have support or patches for 
my Athlon CPU
END OF QUESTIONS

END OF HELP REQUEST

As you can see  I have some obstacles to conquer before I get my dream 
machine  I know very little about computers in general  and with UNIX  I am 
not an ameteur yet
I have a freebsd pc running as a nat server and dont remember how I did it 
but it works and all of my pcs can access the internet through it
This is the second box that Im am configuring for freebsd but to do 
something entirely unlrelated to networking
I was actually motivated by SGI on how those machines are setup to perform 
specific tasks and those tasks are just 3D graphics and media stuff
Just to let you know I hate office related stuff  I like to expiriment with 
both creative and scientific apps
Thats why I like unix and linux even though they kind of rival each other  
To me probably cuz Im a newbie I UNIX or UNIX Like are relatives to me and I 
would take either side before I would ever place any value for the 
IdiotBuilt MarketInCorporated MicroSucks and its brainless Management Minded 
LUsers
UNIX RULES AS LONG AS INTELLIGENCE EXISTS TO USE IT

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