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Date:      Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:47:01 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM <tforrest@mcs.net>
To:        CKimmerl@SARCOM.COM
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910251037040.10534-100000@Mars.mcs.net>
In-Reply-To: <A18002DDE56DD21184050008C7B1601401CADEF4@SNOHEX16.sarcom.com>

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Chad -

I am sorry that you ran into problems with FreeBSD.  I am extremely new
(read: 1 week) to unix administration myself (tho I am a pretty
knowledgeable Unix end user, and an advanced computer user/administrator)
and had a pretty easy install.  Installed everything over the internet.
My biggest gripe about the install was the partitioning.  I did not
understand BSD' (or unix in general) drive mapping.  I did not understand
the /var, /usr, etc, etc.  So I had a friend help me out.  Once I had that
correct its been pretty easy ever since.  The web site is pretty outdated
as I learned the hard way about my SCSI controller (but I can learn to
live w/o a CDROM).  I had BSD up and running in a day and had it acting as
my proxy server 6 days later (I work 75 hours a week, so give me a break
;).

I've still got a long way to go before this box is where I want it.  I
have thoroughly enjoyed setting FreeBSD up, and look forward to finishing
my install.  I did not use any books for my install.  I relied solely on
the man pages, FreeBSD's web site and the read-mes (also this mailing
list and my FreeBSD guru of a friend). Didnt even touch the howto files.
Tho, I suppose if I would have looked at the howto stuff I would not have
needed help with the partitioning.


On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 CKimmerl@SARCOM.COM wrote:

> You people are so far into this stuff that you don't know what "easy" means
> anymore.  I tried to install FreeBSD 3.3 last night.  It was the most
> difficult install I've ever seen.  Problems?  How would I know- I never knew
> what it was doing.  It installed, I just didn't know what.  It is so geared
> towards unix experienced geeks that a person unfamiliar with Unix is totally
> lost.  Microsoftcopy sucks but they've got no competition from unix yet.  No
> one can understand it and unix people can't make it understandable.  I
> picked stuff from the menu, but the interface sucked so bad I wasn't sure
> what I had installed.  I was so pissed that I erased it.  I chose FreeBSD
> over Linux because it is supposed to be more stable, but only a hacker geek
> can install this OS.  I'll try Linux, maybe it will be more easily
> understood.  Greg Lehay's book was useless- it was so far up in geek land it
> was amazing.  Of course, what can you expect from a guy who speaks 3
> languages and went to school for chemistry, etc.  He can't write beginner
> books, that's for sure.  Throughout the entire installation I found myself
> wondering how anybody figures this shit out.  I'd appreciate any "PRACTICAL"
> help as I do not want to give up on FreeBSD.
> 
> Sincerely,
> -ChadK
> chadk@freewwweb.com
> 
> 
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