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Date:      Fri, 11 Jan 2002 03:09:55 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@sicfa.org>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org, kris@obsecurity.org
Subject:   Re: differences between 2-STABLE, 3-STABLE and 4-STABLE
Message-ID:  <20020111030954.A19114@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020111110159.GA11801@oxygene.in.schickler.net>; from lucas@sicfa.org on Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:01:59PM %2B0100
References:  <20020111102201.GA5668@oxygene.in.schickler.net> <20020111023152.A18542@xor.obsecurity.org> <20020111110159.GA11801@oxygene.in.schickler.net>

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On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:01:59PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

> > Unfortunately for you, I expect that you'll have problems fitting more
> > modern versions in only 4MB (it likes to have at least 8MB).
>=20
> I thought the only problem was to be able to make the kernel fit in only
> 4 MB ram. For the rest, I think swapping will do it.
> Wouldn't a customised kernel do the trick, with 3-STABLE, maybe ?
> I remember installing 3-STABLE on a 8 MB system, with a GENERIC kernel.

Well, it might fit, but it would probably swap like a bastard.  I
suppose it's worth a try!

> I suppose it's a compiler's version problem, since 2.1.5 used gcc 2.6.3.

No, it's more than that; there are probably ~30 different things which
have changed incompatibly since then.  The biggest of these is the
binary format has changed from a.out to ELF, and the transitional
change-over code in the system makefiles is no longer there.

> Would a source upgrade like that work :
> 2.1.5 -> 2-STABLE
> 2-STABLE -> 3-STABLE <- possible stop here, since it would be a great
> improvement ;)
> 3-STABLE -> 4-STABLE
> with maybe intermediate steps at 3.0 and 4.0 if direct upgrades from
> n-stable to (n+1)-stable doesn't work ?

You'd probably need to do this in about 6 or 8 separate upgrades and
make worlds..it's really not worth doing it this way, especially on
such a small and slow and machine.  It would take literally months of
compilation time.

Kris

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